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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:34 PM
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It has been a long time since I had to worry about a Chevy Heat Riser. My friend just purchased a 65 Stingray with factory side pipes. I have only looked at the car so far when it has been stone cold and I notice that the weight for the heat riser is pointing away from the engine as I remember. My memory of Chevy heat risers is that the weight dropped down as the car got hot. When I looked at his car it did not appear as if the weight would clear the frame when it dropped. I reached down and moved the value and it seems to open as the weight moved upward. Is this normal for a 65? Did not seem logical that the bimetal spring would have to lift the weight as it opened the value.

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This is "in car" position. Easy to see which way it should rotate.
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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Whether or not it has side exhaust makes no difference. Small block cars had the weight to the rear and pointing outward toward the frame. Big block cars had the weight in the front and pointing toward the starter. When cold, the weight should be in the "up" position and drop down when it gets warm.
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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So, my memory is correct that the weight drops as the car gets hot. I will have to look at the car again but the weight can only be lifted and it will not drop. What the heck did someone install in the car??
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So, my memory is correct that the weight drops as the car gets hot. I will have to look at the car again but the weight can only be lifted and it will not drop. What the heck did someone install in the car??
Upside down. The same thing some dink did to my car when he helped me change the engine. He was the underneath man. Took me several months to figure out why it had no power.

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this will solve all your problems, especially exhaust rot
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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this will solve all your problems, especially exhaust rot
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Funny, I just ordered one of those from Corvette Central minutes ago...
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 04:46 PM
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And as a side benefit your car will sound much better when you start it.
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Most useless invention ever. I never use one because they always lock up and are nothing but trouble. I was never sure if the purpose was for the choke to heat up faster or engine. Either way not needed, except to rust out your pass exhaust faster.
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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I wire them open wit aircraft grade stainless steel safety wire. Pretty useless device in Florida.
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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Most useless invention ever. I never use one because they always lock up and are nothing but trouble. I was never sure if the purpose was for the choke to heat up faster or engine. Either way not needed, except to rust out your pass exhaust faster.
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While I agree that they are not needed for our recreational cars and southern climate cars, they served a purpose for winter driving up north for our daily drivers back in the day.

The main issue with early corrosion on the passenger side exhaust was due to the EDC/EDB corrosive lead scavengers used in leaded fuel. They produced HCL (hydrochloric) and HBR (hydrobromic) acids when burned and combined with water vapor from the combustion process...........and are much more corrosive than CO2 produced acid. Eliminating lead in gasoline was the major step for eliminating early exhaust/tail pipe corrosion.

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Moxie:

While I agree that they are not needed for our recreational cars and southern climate cars, they served a purpose for winter driving up north for our daily drivers back in the day.

The main issue with early corrosion on the passenger side exhaust was due to the EDC/EDB corrosive lead scavengers used in leaded fuel. They produced HCL (hydrochloric) and HBR (hydrobromic) acids when burned and combined with water vapor from the combustion process...........and are much more corrosive than CO2 produced acid. Eliminating lead in gasoline was the major step for eliminating early exhaust/tail pipe corrosion.

FWIW.

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Originally Posted by Powershift
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Eliminating lead in gasoline was the major step for eliminating early exhaust/tail pipe corrosion.

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I was never sure if the purpose was for the choke to heat up faster or engine. Either way not needed, except to rust out your pass exhaust faster.
The heat riser valve's purpose is to create a "hot spot" in the inlet manifold below the carburetor to help evaporate the liquid fuel droplets when the engine is cold to allow immediate driveoff without the engine stumbling, but it's typically not necessary in mild temperatures.

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X's two on the spacer
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Old Dec 9, 2017 | 01:58 PM
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Wired it open on my 67 L79 years ago and problems with hot start due to fuel percolation in the carb bowls were gone.
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I removed the butterfly plate and left everything else in place. I also plugged the manifold heat passage.
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Originally Posted by Brian VH McHale
I removed the butterfly plate and left everything else in place. I also plugged the manifold heat passage.
Looks like you live in NY. On a cold day how does it start and run.
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Originally Posted by MOXIE62
Looks like you live in NY. On a cold day how does it start and run.
I live in SD, and with the heat passage blocked off, and the spacer installed in place of the riser valve, the car starts just fine.

I don’t drive in the winter, but do start the car often year round. In the winter my garage can get in the high 30’s. Two pumps of the pedal and it fires right up.

I did leave it out in the driveway one January day for about 12 hours at single digit temps. The kind of cold where you sit in the seat, and the seat is rock hard. Two pumps of the pedal, and it fired right off and idled on the choke.
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Originally Posted by MOXIE62
Looks like you live in NY. On a cold day how does it start and run.
It starts and runs fine, maybe a little longer on fast idle but nothing annoying.
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