[C2] Harmonic Balancer remove Help.
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Mike he didn’t say if he used a impact or only used a ratchet. The first time I pulled my ballencer on my 396 Dad stood behind me and laughed why I tried with a ratchet. After I gave up he handed me the impact and it was off in the less then minute
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True but he didn't say if he thumped the center bolt with a two pounder either. With the center bolt tight and a whack with a two pounder, that will usually jar them loose. I'd suggest he use at least a 14"-16" breaker bar in lieu of an impact.
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It was a 40 year old snap on puller. And it was a 3/8 impact. Worked like a charm. It’s the hammering action that helps. If you use a two pound sledge like Mike suggest hand tools would work. I’m just telling my experance. Your results may vary
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Used both impact and a 4lb. sledge. Still didn't help. And it's not welded. Will try again tomorrow when I get another puller.
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Can you confirm for us you have BOTH the bolt AND the heavy washer in your hand BEFORE you install the puller? Bill
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Okay, went and got loctite freeze and release, Borrowed a Snap-on puller. Bolt and washer are out. sprayed the freeze and release on waited smacked with sledge. Will not Budge. Tried a couple of times. Still won't budge.. Picture attached of pulley. See bolt and washer on top of pulley.
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Ok, looks ready to pull. It could be a previous owner put Locktite on the crank snout before installing the balancer. In any event, there is a lot of surface area around the crank snout to freeze with rust. Install your Snap-on puller plate with grade 5 or 8 bolts long enough to thread nearly thru the balancer. You want the puller plate to be flush with the front face of the balancer. Lube the puller screw bolt as you are gonna put a ton of torque on it. I put a dab of grease on the pointed tip end of the puller and grease the shaft of the pointed tip before inserting in the puller screw. Then torque it down with a 1/2" impact as tight as it will go. Take a brass hammer and smack the end of the puller screw 3-4 times, then impact it down some more. It might only move 1/8" turn each time, but any movement is good and eventually you will break it free. It might take 6 or 8 tries like this before it lets go. Bill
ps ... I would not recommend you use heat or hammer the balancer until you have done everything above. Heat would be a last resort but it will destroy the seal between the inner and outer rings and you will need to toss the balancer.
ps ... I would not recommend you use heat or hammer the balancer until you have done everything above. Heat would be a last resort but it will destroy the seal between the inner and outer rings and you will need to toss the balancer.
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Ok, looks ready to pull. It could be a previous owner put Locktite on the crank snout before installing the balancer. In any event, there is a lot of surface area around the crank snout to freeze with rust. Install your Snap-on puller plate with grade 5 or 8 bolts long enough to thread nearly thru the balancer. You want the puller plate to be flush with the front face of the balancer. Lube the puller screw bolt as you are gonna put a ton of torque on it. I put a dab of grease on the pointed tip end of the puller and grease the shaft of the pointed tip before inserting in the puller screw. Then torque it down with a 1/2" impact as tight as it will go. Take a brass hammer and smack the end of the puller screw 3-4 times, then impact it down some more. It might only move 1/8" turn each time, but any movement is good and eventually you will break it free. It might take 6 or 8 tries like this before it lets go. Bill
ps ... I would not recommend you use heat or hammer the balancer until you have done everything above. Heat would be a last resort but it will destroy the seal between the inner and outer rings and you will need to toss the balancer.
ps ... I would not recommend you use heat or hammer the balancer until you have done everything above. Heat would be a last resort but it will destroy the seal between the inner and outer rings and you will need to toss the balancer.
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No washer in the hole. But finally got it off. Took a 1/2 inch Breaker bar, with a 4 foot cheater bar and blocked the Crank with a 2x4. Laid into it and it finally let loose. Hong onto the last thread. Now I can switch all the parts over and ready for installation... Thanks for all your help guys.
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No washer in the hole. But finally got it off. Took a 1/2 inch Breaker bar, with a 4 foot cheater bar and blocked the Crank with a 2x4. Laid into it and it finally let loose. Hong onto the last thread. Now I can switch all the parts over and ready for installation... Thanks for all your help guys.
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No washer in the hole. But finally got it off. Took a 1/2 inch Breaker bar, with a 4 foot cheater bar and blocked the Crank with a 2x4. Laid into it and it finally let loose. Hong onto the last thread. Now I can switch all the parts over and ready for installation... Thanks for all your help guys.
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Glad it came off for you, mine came right off thank god, My engine builder took 1 look at it & said he was sending it out to be redone/rebalanced, as it had slipped at some point over the past 53 years. Not sure what that cost, but it would allow you to keep your original part, but in new condition again. My 365hp balancer is available for $399 from various suppliers, and having it redone was much less he had said.
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