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Old Jun 3, 2018 | 07:36 AM
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i bought a new reproduction dual chamber brake master cylinder for my 67 some time ago - but just getting it all together now

i am having trouble getting the pedal to be firm, and I have bled the system a dozen times

i keep finding the bottom of the master cylinder is wet with brake fluid. I thought it was coming from the rear line, and when tightening that line did not help, i bought a new line and replaced it. despite some meticulous efforts at cleaning the master, and re-checking and tightening the lines and bleeder valves, the bottom of the master is always wet with brake fluid after a few presses of the brake pedal. it takes hours for the full effect to appear, so i cant see where the leak is coming from.

the top of the master, around the lid, is dry. this fluid must be coming from one of the fittings or perhaps from a crack in the casting


has anyone else ever seen this?

once i had a similar problem with a steering control valve - it turned out the seat for one of the hoses was damaged and would not seal

i am ready to throw the whole thing in the garbage. i guess i may just buy a new master cylinder

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Old Jun 3, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jkg2101
i bought a new reproduction dual chamber brake master cylinder for my 67 some time ago - but just getting it all together now

i am having trouble getting the pedal to be firm, and I have bled the system a dozen times

i keep finding the bottom of the master cylinder is wet with brake fluid. I thought it was coming from the rear line, and when tightening that line did not help, i bought a new line and replaced it. despite some meticulous efforts at cleaning the master, and re-checking and tightening the lines and bleeder valves, the bottom of the master is always wet with brake fluid after a few presses of the brake pedal. it takes hours for the full effect to appear, so i cant see where the leak is coming from.

the top of the master, around the lid, is dry. this fluid must be coming from one of the fittings or perhaps from a crack in the casting


has anyone else ever seen this?

once i had a similar problem with a steering control valve - it turned out the seat for one of the hoses was damaged and would not seal

i am ready to throw the whole thing in the garbage. i guess i may just buy a new master cylinder

justin
Flared fitting right? Possible the seat is damaged.
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Old Jun 3, 2018 | 10:57 AM
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Yes, I had this exact problem. After a careful look I found a void in the casting on the back of the MC which allowed fluid to leak out and make things wet but didn't affect the operation. I replaced it...
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I installed a new repro master cylinder. I am still frustrated by slight leaks by both of the bleeder valves on the master itself, but hopefully if I keep tightening, eventually that will stop

I drove the car after extensive bleeding. The brakes seem to work, but the pedal travel is long. Maybe the air is all out? It feels to me like the bore in the master cylinder is too small, and it requires too much pedal travel to work. If I really stand on it, the brakes do seem to work, although it was only a neighborhood drive. I guess the next step is to see if I can lock up the brakes.

Or maybe something is still wrong? it is a manual brake setup.
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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jkg2101
I installed a new repro master cylinder. I am still frustrated by slight leaks by both of the bleeder valves on the master itself, but hopefully if I keep tightening, eventually that will stop

I drove the car after extensive bleeding. The brakes seem to work, but the pedal travel is long. Maybe the air is all out? It feels to me like the bore in the master cylinder is too small, and it requires too much pedal travel to work. If I really stand on it, the brakes do seem to work, although it was only a neighborhood drive. I guess the next step is to see if I can lock up the brakes.

Or maybe something is still wrong? it is a manual brake setup.
Assuming you have the correct part for the application (casting #5455509, 1" bore), if you have brake fluid on the bottom outside of the master cylinder, you have a bad casting. Return it.
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