Frame and suspension paint
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Frame and suspension paint
I believe I have found a source for the correct Krylon semi-flat paint to do the frame. The Krylon part number is now K01613A07. It is labeled as industrial acrylic lacquer paint. I hope this is the right one because I am preparing to order a case. I used to buy the original 1613, but from my research, this is the original with a new label and part number. This is not the 51613 which we know is incorrect.
My question is, what finish do you use for the control arms and the few things that are more gloss finished? Is there a Krylon sibling of this on that is semi gloss? Thanks.
My question is, what finish do you use for the control arms and the few things that are more gloss finished? Is there a Krylon sibling of this on that is semi gloss? Thanks.
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I just bought a case from Travers Tool Co, semi-flat Krylon industrial. No idea if it is "exactly" the same as something else, for my project "close" is good enough. Check them out, it may be what you are looking for. https://www.travers.com/interiorexte.../p/81-010-126/
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Why aren’t you using a catalyzed epoxy? It’s superior in every way.
That’s a legitimate and real question by the way, not one designed to cause an issue.
That’s a legitimate and real question by the way, not one designed to cause an issue.
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For the control arms if you want a bit more gloss you can try Eastwoods Chassis Black. It's been many years since I used it, but I used the original formulation on my control arms and a few other parts and it was more of a semi-gloss. If I had to guess I would say 70% gloss. Fairly tough stuff too.
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I would use PPG DP 90 black epoxy primer followed by PPG Acrylic Urethane DAU 9300 Black with a bit of flattening agent added to reduce the gloss. The urethane is a two part paint. I believe John McGraw recommended this.
DAR 9000 Acrylic Enamel Black with hardener and flattening agent is another great choice for the topcoat.
If you cannot shoot it yourself, I would have a local auto shop painter do it for me............but frame should be an easy shoot.
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Although I appreciate everyones opinions and suggestions on what to use, I failed to say in my original post that this is a body on "clean up" of an original '64 undercarriage. This thing is and was covered from head to toe with undercoating because it was raised in Charlottesville, Virginia and "that's what they did back then". So, I have been lovingly removing most of it and am finding incredible things along the way including a very nice original frame with a lot of original frame paint, shim markings, production numbers, shim tape at all body mount locations, etc. This car will never see the kind of weather it has seen in it's 53 years ever again, and I just want to preserve it to look like it did before the "dealer option" guy got ahold of it. I am cleaning the frame, applying a rust converter that provides me with not only a solution to what little rust there is, but it also provides a nice black primer in which to apply some paint once I determine which one. If someone could just answer my question on whether this is the right product and suggest a semi-gloss or gloss for the suspension parts I would appreciate it. Thanks guys.
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Although I appreciate everyones opinions and suggestions on what to use, I failed to say in my original post that this is a body on "clean up" of an original '64 undercarriage. This thing is and was covered from head to toe with undercoating because it was raised in Charlottesville, Virginia and "that's what they did back then". So, I have been lovingly removing most of it and am finding incredible things along the way including a very nice original frame with a lot of original frame paint, shim markings, production numbers, shim tape at all body mount locations, etc. This car will never see the kind of weather it has seen in it's 53 years ever again, and I just want to preserve it to look like it did before the "dealer option" guy got ahold of it. I am cleaning the frame, applying a rust converter that provides me with not only a solution to what little rust there is, but it also provides a nice black primer in which to apply some paint once I determine which one. If someone could just answer my question on whether this is the right product and suggest a semi-gloss or gloss for the suspension parts I would appreciate it. Thanks guys.
The original type chassis paint may also be available from Quanta as GM Reconditioning Black (or something similar). Part # 0616. They also sell an original asphalt based product.........which I don't recommend, but is/was original. Part # 0614.
Give Quanta website a look......Speciality Paints.
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Then how about this: Quanta has 5 levels of black paint from flat to gloss in acrylic enamel. I have used the semi-gloss, medium, and semi-flat colors to do basically what you are asking. The semi-flat and the medium I like best for chassis and semi-gloss for misc components. Give it a try. Very few things take gloss or flat.
The original type chassis paint may also be available from Quanta as GM Reconditioning Black (or something similar). Part # 0616. They also sell an original asphalt based product.........which I don't recommend, but is/was original. Part # 0614.
Give Quanta website a look......Speciality Paints.
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The original type chassis paint may also be available from Quanta as GM Reconditioning Black (or something similar). Part # 0616. They also sell an original asphalt based product.........which I don't recommend, but is/was original. Part # 0614.
Give Quanta website a look......Speciality Paints.
Larry
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the frame was a asphalt based paint that wore off in a few years. Semi flat black seems to be the accepted color. If it was me I would have it powder coated.
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"clean up" of an original '64 undercarriage. This thing is and was covered from head to toe with undercoating because "that's what they did back then". So, I have been lovingly removing most of it..... [/QUOTE]
I am living this same nightmare with undercoating on everything, Omg, it's terrible!! Heat gun, plastic trowel, lots of elbow grease!
I am living this same nightmare with undercoating on everything, Omg, it's terrible!! Heat gun, plastic trowel, lots of elbow grease!
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Rob, you wouldn't believe my spare tire tub and floor pans. Absolutely covered. DIdn't know fiberglass could rust............ fortunately much of the undercoating on the frame and suspension comes off pretty well with either a straight razor/scraper or a sharpened chisel. Done carefully it has preserved most of what was under the coating including shim marks, frame stencil, etc. I am still undecided what to do with the wheel wells. Even the front parking light harnesses are coated along with the body mount access plates. Here are some before and after of the rear right corner.