[C2] Day/Night Rear View Mirror 1966
#81
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This sounds like a semi concession to me the same that I have done by acknowledging that I agree that some 66 cars did come from the factory with the standard mirror. It is a win win for everybody and we all learned something from this very useful thread.
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knowing that pre-production descriptions and pictures are always wrong on any GM cars from the era. And there is no proof that there was a day night mirror installed how can you say that. It seems clear to me that all cars got the standard mirror at St Louis but the dealer could install one. Or a trip to the junk yard could yeild one You can have one changed out in a few minutes So after 52 years a lot could happen And so many of these car was restored wrong due to errors in books
#83
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My 1966 Cars Have Standard Mirrors
Add me to the list of 1966 owners with standard interior rear view mirrors. I presently own 2, 1966 cars, a coupe and a convertible. One is an October, '65 build and the other a May, '66 build. Both have standard mirrors.
While I know some wish for closure on the subject, to me, the photograph showing the assembly line cars equipped with standard mirrors is very interesting. Is that the only way they were built; we may never know for certain and I can accept that.
Thomas
While I know some wish for closure on the subject, to me, the photograph showing the assembly line cars equipped with standard mirrors is very interesting. Is that the only way they were built; we may never know for certain and I can accept that.
Thomas
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So, other than the NCRS gold chasers, who would remove a D/N mirror and install a standard mirror? You just leave it in the day position and forget it.
Were the D/N mirrors date coded like the standard mirror, and if not, why not?
Just amused that this discussion closely resembles the BB hood on SB cars.
Ron
Were the D/N mirrors date coded like the standard mirror, and if not, why not?
Just amused that this discussion closely resembles the BB hood on SB cars.
Ron
#85
Another std mirror on my April '66. I am second owner. I bought it from a friend in '69. I have known the car since new. I currently has D/N as I prefer the non-glare for night driving.
#86
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Add me to the list of 1966 owners with standard interior rear view mirrors. I presently own 2, 1966 cars, a coupe and a convertible. One is an October, '65 build and the other a May, '66 build. Both have standard mirrors.
While I know some wish for closure on the subject, to me, the photograph showing the assembly line cars equipped with standard mirrors is very interesting. Is that the only way they were built; we may never know for certain and I can accept that.
Thomas
While I know some wish for closure on the subject, to me, the photograph showing the assembly line cars equipped with standard mirrors is very interesting. Is that the only way they were built; we may never know for certain and I can accept that.
Thomas
#87
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Get back to your nap Leif. The issue is settled.
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#89
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@survivor66
Do you have a picture of your mirror? I have a very early and original 66 car (9th July 1965) with the d/n mirror. On the bottom of mine it says "Made in USA" on the top "Guide Glare-Proof". According to the 65 Judging Guide it looks like a authentic one.
Is there something written on the top of your mirror?
THX!
Do you have a picture of your mirror? I have a very early and original 66 car (9th July 1965) with the d/n mirror. On the bottom of mine it says "Made in USA" on the top "Guide Glare-Proof". According to the 65 Judging Guide it looks like a authentic one.
Is there something written on the top of your mirror?
THX!
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#94
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The Guide mirror are not dated (NCRS judging guide). As survivor66 said it was 65 an option (Z01) and 66 a dealer option according to NCRS judging guide and all the posts in this thread.
#95
Mario- Are you certain on the build date of your 66... I thought that 1966 production started approximately Sept 2nd of 1965.
No matter the build date, I'll contribute a little more research to this thread:
From an EARLY 1966 Corvette Dealer Order Form, we see that option Z01 (Comfort & Convenience) was indeed present.
This option was initially CHECKED/SELECTED on a Sept 15th order for a SOLD vehicle (NOT for dealer stock).
(From previous discussion, we are aware that option was dropped on Sept 9th... see post #65.)
When this particular order form reached the Cincinnati Distribution Zone, it was RETURNED with annotations.
There were problems with F41 & J56 (requiring L72), and Z01 was marked as STANDARD... but that may be DECEIVING.
The order form was updated by the dealer, returned to Cincinnati, and the Corvette was eventually produced in Oct 1965.
It's my contention when Backup Lights became STANDARD, the 'bean counters' moved the Day/Night Mirror to DEALER ACCESSORIES.
(they did NOT want to absorb ALL the costs into the MSRP Price Schedules, for the ENTIRE Chevy lineup)
Looking at 1966 Custom Feature Accessories brochures and booklets... it verifies that BACKUP lights became STANDARD.
I've yet to see any concrete evidence that shows a Day/Night Mirror as STANDARD or FACTORY OPTIONAL equipment, on a PRODUCTION Corvette.
From the Large Blue-ish 1966 Dealer Custom Feature Accessories Album:
From the 1966 Accessories Brochure (Aqua):
From the 1966 Accessories Brochure (Brown):
And speaking of photos, these additional Corvette assembly line images come from Sept 28, 1965...
Zooming into the mirror, NONE show any evidence of the lower twist ****, required for a Day/Night Mirror.
If you have any contradicting documentation/photos/evidence, kindly post your findings.
Zoomed-In from the Coupe in photo above:
Zoomed-In from a different view, of the Convertible in front of the coupe:
And previously posted... ALL STANDARD mirrors in 1966.
No matter the build date, I'll contribute a little more research to this thread:
From an EARLY 1966 Corvette Dealer Order Form, we see that option Z01 (Comfort & Convenience) was indeed present.
This option was initially CHECKED/SELECTED on a Sept 15th order for a SOLD vehicle (NOT for dealer stock).
(From previous discussion, we are aware that option was dropped on Sept 9th... see post #65.)
When this particular order form reached the Cincinnati Distribution Zone, it was RETURNED with annotations.
There were problems with F41 & J56 (requiring L72), and Z01 was marked as STANDARD... but that may be DECEIVING.
The order form was updated by the dealer, returned to Cincinnati, and the Corvette was eventually produced in Oct 1965.
It's my contention when Backup Lights became STANDARD, the 'bean counters' moved the Day/Night Mirror to DEALER ACCESSORIES.
(they did NOT want to absorb ALL the costs into the MSRP Price Schedules, for the ENTIRE Chevy lineup)
Looking at 1966 Custom Feature Accessories brochures and booklets... it verifies that BACKUP lights became STANDARD.
I've yet to see any concrete evidence that shows a Day/Night Mirror as STANDARD or FACTORY OPTIONAL equipment, on a PRODUCTION Corvette.
From the Large Blue-ish 1966 Dealer Custom Feature Accessories Album:
From the 1966 Accessories Brochure (Aqua):
From the 1966 Accessories Brochure (Brown):
And speaking of photos, these additional Corvette assembly line images come from Sept 28, 1965...
Zooming into the mirror, NONE show any evidence of the lower twist ****, required for a Day/Night Mirror.
If you have any contradicting documentation/photos/evidence, kindly post your findings.
Zoomed-In from the Coupe in photo above:
Zoomed-In from a different view, of the Convertible in front of the coupe:
And previously posted... ALL STANDARD mirrors in 1966.
#96
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427 Sidepipes Very interesting information and pictures. Thank you for sharing.
Yes my built date ist right. It is one of the 66 pilot cars (NCRS confirmed). It has some 65 parts so it possible that they used a 65 mirror.
Yes my built date ist right. It is one of the 66 pilot cars (NCRS confirmed). It has some 65 parts so it possible that they used a 65 mirror.
#97
Mario- THANX for the update... very interesting car... would love to see/hear more info.
And if you look back at my earlier post (#43), you'll see the Day/Night Mirror in PRE-production images and documentation.
And if you look back at my earlier post (#43), you'll see the Day/Night Mirror in PRE-production images and documentation.
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After seeing this thread resurrected and having participated in it originally I went back and re-read ALL of the posts. I find it interesting that no one mentioned that some of the factory literature shown was produced with a lot of lead time compared to the start up of the new 1966 models and changes either way could have taken place that would make the previously printed info wrong. It would also account for the previously mention radio ***** being 65s as the new ***** may not have yet been available when the picture was needed for the literature.
Also for note the mirror has been referred to as a TURN control when in fact it is a FLIP control from front to back NOT side to side.
Also for note the mirror has been referred to as a TURN control when in fact it is a FLIP control from front to back NOT side to side.
#100
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According to my current NCRS judging guide the 66 corvette would have had either a Donnelly date coded mirror (my car) or a "Guide" mirror that had the word "guide" and 2 rivets visible on the front side of the mirror facing the windshield, the Guide mirror was not date coded. The Donnelly "had a chrome plated cast mounting shaft attached to the center of the windshield header with two chrome plated Phillips trim screws." The correct mirror for a 66 is one of these two examples according to NCRS.