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Old 02-11-2019, 11:08 AM
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The plate is shown in the AIM drawing and has its own part number, but you have to be looking for it, it isn't real obvious..
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:37 AM
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Yes, that's the plate I was talking about in Post #24.
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Yes Frankie, I am seeing it your way. All the brackets everyone speaks of are there, unmoved from the first time we took off the generator. The only thing we removed was the generator and the belt. The reason we took it off was to replace a bad voltage regulator.
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Originally Posted by mintcondition
Can’t see how a shorter belt will work. The generator doesn’t go higher. It positions on the bracket only one way. I tried rolling it on the arm more but the tach unit hits the manifold.

Compare the above photo, to the photo below:



The tach drive housing hitting the manifold tells me the generator may be assembled incorrectly.

Remove the generator, compare it to the photos and clock the stator housing of the generator to match how the proper alignment and mounts look.
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Originally Posted by mintcondition
Yes Frankie, I am seeing it your way. All the brackets everyone speaks of are there, unmoved from the first time we took off the generator. The only thing we removed was the generator and the belt. The reason we took it off was to replace a bad voltage regulator.
Can you get better photos of the generator mounted? Similar to those 65GGvert sent?
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On #28;the fourth picture, I don’t understand the setup. We have the u bracket bolted through the backing plate into the manifold. It looks like the 4 hole plate is in the manifold and the u bracket is bolted to the plate. The picture looks totally different.

I have the backing plate, the picture you can see with the extra set of holes on the bottom. You can even see the belt resting on the frame in one pic and the tach unit hitting the manifold.


Tach unit close to manifold




4 holes bracket between u shaped bracket and manifold



Belt touching frame

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Originally Posted by 63 340HP
Compare the above photo, to the photo below:




The tach drive housing hitting the manifold tells me the generator may be assembled incorrectly.

Remove the generator, compare it to the photos and clock the stator housing of the generator to match how the proper alignment and mounts look.



Can you see where the tach drive end of the generator is assembled incorrectly (clocked 180 degrees off)?

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Originally Posted by mintcondition
On #28;the fourth picture, I don’t understand the setup. We have the u bracket bolted through the backing plate into the manifold. It looks like the 4 hole plate is in the manifold and the u bracket is bolted to the plate. The picture looks totally different.
Here is the correct setup from Rich and Dave’s document.

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You're right - that's what the book shows and how mine is set up. Your brace looks contorted though.

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I tried the adjusting brace on both sides since your pictures show in front but the assembly manuals show it behind.
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You don't need to show any more close up pictures of how close it is. That's obvious. Can you take a picture from the rear of the generator, showing the mount and exhaust, but NOT so close up. Your adaptor plate can't be right. It has to be bolted to the exhaust with the top two holes closer to the front of the car. That moves the generator forward and up as it should be. Then the lower bracket for the generator bolts to that. Then the generator to that. Again the close up pictures are deceiving, back the camera away and show the back side of the generator, it looks like the end plate is mounted 180 out, but need better pictures. Look at the picture posted with the adaptor plate mounted to the exhaust manifold, that's the way the holes MUST be
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We are going to flip that 4 hole bracket since it is definitely NOT that way right now and follow the pics above.
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Great. Just note that the generator doesn't bolt to the exhaust. It bolts to the plate that bolts to the exhaust. the two bottom holes in the plate bolt to the exhaust and then up and toward the front are the top two empty holes where the generator bracket bolts. Refer to that picture that shows the plate bolted to the exhaust with nothing else held on by those bolts.
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Looking at the one pic, the OPs flat adapter plate is on upside down. OP will probably need a longer fan belt once corrected. Flipping the plate may have been the way someone made a too short belt, fit. OP will probably also want a new lower rad hose once problem is corrected.

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Thank you all. Will be working on it this week and will keep you posted.
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Tried flipping the plate but it just moved the generator forward so now the pulleys no longer line up. Went back to the rebuilder and believe it or not, he passed away 2 weeks ago. Is the tach unit flipped by just the 2 screws or do I have to do something inside too?
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Haven't been keeping up - but here is the TSB on "flipping' the tachometer drive:

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If you still want help with this, you're going to have to remove the generator and take a picture (not too close up) of the adapter mounted to the exhaust manifold, then a picture of the generator mount. Your generator is way too close to the engine (exhaust manifold) and something is mounted incorrectly or omitted. When the plate is mounted the two empty holes must stick UP and forward like in this picture.

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Also, in your pictures you show the front adjusting bracket behind the ear on the generator. The drawing also shows that. If the drawing is right, then my bracket is in the wrong place. I don't believe it is because the bolt has to screw through the slot and then into the generator threads. The bolt head is at the front and threads to the rear, opposite of the drawing. This is a close up of my mount which has always been fine and is opposite of the drawing shown earlier.

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Another angle of the bracket to adjust belt tension



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