Thoughts on this 63
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Two things stick out in the ad.
1. "The C2 Sting Ray was also somewhat lighter than the C1 Corvette," WRONG and if that is an example of the dealers knowledge he probably can't answer the hard questions.
2. Says matching numbers rather than original born with engine so likely it is a restamp. C2 FI cars are hard to prove without a certified born with engine.
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Not enough info to give any informed comments other then the price would be at the top of the market for as perfect a car as you could find. Many one year only parts for 1963 and they all add up if they are missing.
Two things stick out in the ad.
1. "The C2 Sting Ray was also somewhat lighter than the C1 Corvette," WRONG and if that is an example of the dealers knowledge he probably can't answer the hard questions.
2. Says matching numbers rather than original born with engine so likely it is a restamp. C2 FI cars are hard to prove without a certified born with engine.
Two things stick out in the ad.
1. "The C2 Sting Ray was also somewhat lighter than the C1 Corvette," WRONG and if that is an example of the dealers knowledge he probably can't answer the hard questions.
2. Says matching numbers rather than original born with engine so likely it is a restamp. C2 FI cars are hard to prove without a certified born with engine.
It actually takes a tiny bit of insight to sneakily know the difference and intentionally misrepresent. I’d be more likely to believe he hasn’t even a clue what numbers matching is, and would say that if the pad was decked.
Not saying this dealer isn’t a crook, he might be. Or he might be completely uninformed as many are.
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$175,000 for a car as poorly built as this one run don't walk. Small things like screws missing from every location inside and out, wrong screws all over, wrong rear spring, underbody painted with missing plugs under carpet, repop wheels, headlight openings square not radius, chrome headlight rims, if this was a real silver and red FI car all the things wrong would have been corrected at the time of restoration. no picture of trim tag, repop spare tire compartment and the list goes on and on.
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After looking at the pics, pretty good broach marks if you are calling it a restamp.
Not seeing the expensive seat belts in any pics.
Just a barrel of money, though.
Not seeing the expensive seat belts in any pics.
Just a barrel of money, though.
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$175,000 for a car as poorly built as this one run don't walk. Small things like screws missing from every location inside and out, wrong screws all over, wrong rear spring, underbody painted with missing plugs under carpet, repop wheels, headlight openings square not radius, chrome headlight rims, if this was a real silver and red FI car all the things wrong would have been corrected at the time of restoration. no picture of trim tag, repop spare tire compartment and the list goes on and on.
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One of the major restampers is advertising the purchase of a " broaching machine " to correct the improper machined surface. Undetectable restamps currently available .
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I don't nearly know enough to critique this '63 but for that kind of money and the questions that are being brought up nothing short of a highly qualified expert inspection as another pair of eyes and opinion is in order.
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Missing seatbelts (or not shown), should be a Wonderbar radio, orange thermostat housing, underbody blacked out (why?).....data on Trim Tag is correct - I own #10706, Body #5991. Car needs to be judged at an NCRS event.
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Overpriced like every other 63 Coupe based specifically upon the two rear windows; but more severely than many I’ve seen.
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I had one Frankie. It wasn’t unique. Unique is a birdcage Maserati. The 63 Corvette coupe is a production car that they made over 10,000 of.
I prefer to live in and enjoy the advances of the present.
Enjoy your car. It’s a good looking vehicle.
I prefer to live in and enjoy the advances of the present.
Enjoy your car. It’s a good looking vehicle.
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The fuel injection emblems look crooked and are mislocated. That, combined with reproduction exhaust manifolds (replacing the expensive fuel injection exhaust manifolds), and the polished plenum cover, suggest it's not originally a fuel car.
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Call it "special" if you think that's more suitable..
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I think the Ferrari Dinos are overpriced these days, but that’s what they cost.
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I did not look at the pictures just the initial posting.
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If you like Porsche 964s, 993s, 1963 Corvette coupes and 1967 Corvette 435 convertibles, it's all the same truth. I think they are all overpriced, but if you have a desire that needs to be satisfied, you pay the toll or settle for less than what you want.
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[QUOTE=Frankie the Fink;1599491146]First Sting Ray, first Corvette coupe, first hidden headlights, first independent rear suspension, first Corvette with A/C and how many survive ??
Evidently a Texas metric crap-ton of them as there are always ridiculously overpriced project cars and finished examples up for sale to the buyer with, as my dad said, more money than brains.
I can’t get all hung up on any particular vehicle, regardless of make. Every time I see a 68 Hemi Charger I want to bring it home. Common sense prevails and I continue to live without it. It isn’t a need. Been there, done it, moved on.
Evidently a Texas metric crap-ton of them as there are always ridiculously overpriced project cars and finished examples up for sale to the buyer with, as my dad said, more money than brains.
I can’t get all hung up on any particular vehicle, regardless of make. Every time I see a 68 Hemi Charger I want to bring it home. Common sense prevails and I continue to live without it. It isn’t a need. Been there, done it, moved on.
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I don't have to defend the prices - the market speaks for itself - a few months ago just a split window body went for $72K, member rtruman sold his split window in a couple of hours on eBay for $90K a few months back -- and it had a '65 frame..
The cars command a premium and you can debate everything else until the cows come home...
The cars command a premium and you can debate everything else until the cows come home...
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I don't have to defend the prices - the market speaks for itself - a few months ago just a split window body went for $72K, member rtruman sold his split window in a couple of hours on eBay for $90K a few months back -- and it had a '65 frame..
The cars command a premium and you can debate everything else until the cows come home...
The cars command a premium and you can debate everything else until the cows come home...
I know you as a stand up, helpful, giving person on this forum. We disagree on “values” on a particular year and style of vehicle. That’s one of the great things about living in this country. We don’t have to agree. On this one I agree with my dad.
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