[C2] 67 Pad
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It’s listed on the C2 registry and shows it was purchased last year in November. Green over Saddle convertible.
Drifting
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From: Bronx New York
In king rats comparison the top and bottom examples are typical where the number one after the 7 is at a slight angle consistent with other original pads in the range. My opinion is well done restoration engine which could well pass in a judging situation.
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C1 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
”Restoration engine” re-stamped or original what ever you want to call it.It looks RIGHT to me. You will get all kinds of opinions here simply because it is a BB. If this car were 300 h.p. with a stamp like this everyone would say it is original—end of story. There are as many PERFECT looking stamps as there are ones that aren’t out there. Re-stamps have improved vastly over the years especially with the ability to recreate the correct broach marks. Today collectors know all of this and often will not buy a car without documentation to prove a “born with” engine. You say too “crisp” but if it were always painted from day one it will. If not it will have some rust or discoloring from the rust which can easily be created with water and very little time.
I would call it good but many will require further documentation because there are more 1967 435 h.p. Corvettes out there today then Chevrolet built.
I would call it good but many will require further documentation because there are more 1967 435 h.p. Corvettes out there today then Chevrolet built.
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Burning Brakes
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As one poster spotlighted "Born With" with supporting documentation I just perceive this as just another layer of fluff. So you have a build sheet, original bill of sale and registration, etc and somewhere over the last 54 years the engine was replaced. Now we are at the same place the pad stamp, block and casting dates.
I have looked for a decent BB in the past and have been tarnished by the flippers and con artist that troll the industry. So many times on this forum great people have helped someone in finding their dream car only to be flipped! I do think the top end, say $125k plus cars are getting harder to sale. They say there is a butt for every car seat, however as the price increases the prospective buyers decline.
For me I want to drive a car, when you have $$$$$ in a car it seems to become a trailer queen. Why, because of $$$$$$$$. Just think one hard rev, engine fails now you have a NOM, well that brings us back to the pad stamp, block and casting dates doesn't it.
Sorry for the ramble.
I have looked for a decent BB in the past and have been tarnished by the flippers and con artist that troll the industry. So many times on this forum great people have helped someone in finding their dream car only to be flipped! I do think the top end, say $125k plus cars are getting harder to sale. They say there is a butt for every car seat, however as the price increases the prospective buyers decline.
For me I want to drive a car, when you have $$$$$ in a car it seems to become a trailer queen. Why, because of $$$$$$$$. Just think one hard rev, engine fails now you have a NOM, well that brings us back to the pad stamp, block and casting dates doesn't it.
Sorry for the ramble.
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From: Cottonwood AZ
C1 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
They vary in depth depending on how long the cutters were used and wear. engineslimited.com has had a factory broaching machine for several years now.Look at their website and you eyes will be opened to all of what has been going on for over 40 years with just THEM.
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To me, both stamps look to be just too perfect. I won't say that I haven't seen perfect stamps, but it's rare, and even rarer to see both the engine and VIN stamp to be so perfect. Normally you'll find at least one digit crooked, lower, higher, or out of line some how with the others, and mismatched fonts are also common. For every digit to be perfectly and evenly positioned, and every one of them to be of the same font type, is highly unlikely, in my opinion.
When I do a pre-purchase inspection, unless the suffix and VIN stamps are way off, I'll usually describe them as follows; "the pad appears to be typical of factory stampings", and that's about all I could say about this car's pad.
As far as documentation, it's nice to have, but just like all of the bogus stamp pads out there, there's also plenty of bogus documentation floating around. Personally, I usually doubt the validity of any tank, window sticker or P-O-P, that comes with a 67 big block today. Other than original dealer paperwork, such as a dealer invoice, I consider most other documentation to be suspicious. Admittedly, even things like order forms and dealer invoices, can be forged.
Unfortunately, the best anyone can do is know what they're looking at, and do their due diligence.
When I do a pre-purchase inspection, unless the suffix and VIN stamps are way off, I'll usually describe them as follows; "the pad appears to be typical of factory stampings", and that's about all I could say about this car's pad.
As far as documentation, it's nice to have, but just like all of the bogus stamp pads out there, there's also plenty of bogus documentation floating around. Personally, I usually doubt the validity of any tank, window sticker or P-O-P, that comes with a 67 big block today. Other than original dealer paperwork, such as a dealer invoice, I consider most other documentation to be suspicious. Admittedly, even things like order forms and dealer invoices, can be forged.
Unfortunately, the best anyone can do is know what they're looking at, and do their due diligence.