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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:24 AM
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I will be removing my transmission for a rebuild very shortly. Assuming I will need to replace the clutch, pressure plate, TO bearing, and pilot bearing etc.
Any suggestion as to what replacement parts I should get?
I see some suggest LUK, others National or Auto Gear. What about the TO and pilot bearing?
My car is a '67 with a 327/300HP
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:31 AM
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Many like Luk others like center force,etc.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Comes with a TO bearing and pilot bushing. Unlikely to give you any trouble.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:50 AM
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It is possible you still have tens of thousands of miles left in the clutch that's in there.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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I installed a Luk, model 021, in my 64 Coupe this past Summer.
This is, without doubt, the best performing clutch I have had in my car during my 50 years of ownership.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 12:12 PM
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Mike, I agree that my clutch may be good for tens of thousands of more miles. Just trying to be proactive.

I see LUK clutch kits for under $100 and I see Center Force clutch kits
for $300+ how do I determine which to get?
Same for the TO and Pilot bearings. This a job I am not looking forward to. More work than I like !
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow6t7

I see LUK clutch kits for under $100 and I see Center Force clutch kits for $300+ how do I determine which to get?
Same for the TO and Pilot bearings. This a job I am not looking forward to. More work than I like !

If you're not in to constantly abusing clutches, the Luk 021 mentioned above will work fine. Smooth, low effort. I have one in my car.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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While it's all out and apart, I would change the ring gear if even one tooth is bad and I would also balance the flywheel to the pressure plate. Lastly, double check the throw out bearing to ensure it is for a Corvette and not the same year passenger car. Jerry
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I have many miles on my Luk 021 clutch/pressure plate assembly. All balanced together and marked. You won't regret it for a street driven car. Dennis
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Originally Posted by Tampa Jerry
While it's all out and apart, I would change the ring gear if even one tooth is bad and I would also balance the flywheel to the pressure plate. Lastly, double check the throw out bearing to ensure it is for a Corvette and not the same year passenger car. Jerry
What is the TO bearing for a Corvette. Why a difference?
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Originally Posted by Yellow6t7
What is the TO bearing for a Corvette. Why a difference?
Corvettes use bent-finger diaphragm clutches and a 1-1/4"-tall TO bearing; passenger cars and trucks use flat-finger diaphragm clutches with a 1-7/8"-tall TO bearing. You can't intermix the two.


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Short throw out (clutch release) bearings were used in other GM cars also, not just Corvettes. At least this is what I have found in the past half century of playing with cars. So, don't go to the parts store or call up the vendors asking for a special "Corvette" throw out bearing. At best, you might get a laugh out of the salesman, at worst, the price may be Corvette "Triple Gold".

If I am wrong about this, everyone will get a good laugh anyway.

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Originally Posted by R66
Short throw out (clutch release) bearings were used in other GM cars also, not just Corvettes. At least this is what I have found in the past half century of playing with cars. So, don't go to the parts store or call up the vendors asking for a special "Corvette" throw out bearing. At best, you might get a laugh out of the salesman, at worst, the price may be Corvette "Triple Gold".

If I am wrong about this, everyone will get a good laugh anyway.

Ron
You are not wrong and two surprises.

In the C1-C3 era Chevrolet brand (including Pass cars) cars, there were actually three different length throwout bearings.

'55 Corvette, first design used 1 7/8"

'55-'63 Corvette, second design used 1 1/4"

'64-'69 1 7/32"

I'd list the Pass cars but this is a Corvette forum. Used to be when you bought a clutch for Chevrolets in the above years, the parts guy would always ask you what length throwout bearing you had in the car.
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A bent finger clutch and short throw out bearing can be substituted into any Chevrolet V8 car of the 60s/70s so probably a lot of performance guys interchanged them at the first clutch replacement over the years. I wouldn't be surprised that mechanical lifter engines in later passenger cars might have received a bent finger clutch as OEM but I have no information to verify that - maybe someone else with a mechanical lifter engine Chevelle or Impala SS knows. I would be real surprised if a Z28 had a flat finger clutch (but I've been surprised many times before). I still remember the old wives tales in the late 60s about avoiding diaphragm clutches because they would stick to the floor at high rpm - all apparently stemming from a few stories about flat finger clutches being used behind a high reving engine.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66

I would be real surprised if a Z28 had a flat finger clutch (but I've been surprised many times before). I still remember the old wives tales in the late 60s about avoiding diaphragm clutches because they would stick to the floor at high rpm - all apparently stemming from a few stories about flat finger clutches being used behind a high reving engine.

That was not an old wives tale about the straight finger clutch hanging to the floor. At high rpm (close to 6000 if I remember right) the clutch pedal when released would actually pull away from your foot and go straight to the floor. When the rpm's dropped, it would pop back up on it's own.

Some mid-late '60's Chevy II, Chevelle, Camaro used flat finger clutches and some used bent finger. Some used the 1 1/4" bearing and some used the 1 7/32" bearing. The bent finger clutches weren't confined to the solid lifter engines.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
A bent finger clutch and short throw out bearing can be substituted into any Chevrolet V8 car of the 60s/70s so probably a lot of performance guys interchanged them at the first clutch replacement over the years. I wouldn't be surprised that mechanical lifter engines in later passenger cars might have received a bent finger clutch as OEM but I have no information to verify that - maybe someone else with a mechanical lifter engine Chevelle or Impala SS knows. I would be real surprised if a Z28 had a flat finger clutch (but I've been surprised many times before). I still remember the old wives tales in the late 60s about avoiding diaphragm clutches because they would stick to the floor at high rpm - all apparently stemming from a few stories about flat finger clutches being used behind a high reving engine.
I believe the answer to this was the SCHIEFER REV-LOK.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
That was not an old wives tale about the straight finger clutch hanging to the floor. At high rpm (close to 6000 if I remember right) the clutch pedal when released would actually pull away from your foot and go straight to the floor. When the rpm's dropped, it would pop back up on it's own.

Some mid-late '60's Chevy II, Chevelle, Camaro used flat finger clutches and some used bent finger. Some used the 1 1/4" bearing and some used the 1 7/32" bearing. The bent finger clutches weren't confined to the solid lifter engines.
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Originally Posted by Powershift
I believe the answer to this was the SCHIEFER REV-LOK.

Larry
That was one answer. Another, cheaper answer was to adjust the clutch so you couldn't over center it so far and it wouldn't hang down at high rpm.
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Mike- I sent you an email.

Ralphie, you have mail.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
That was one answer. Another, cheaper answer was to adjust the clutch so you couldn't over center it so far and it wouldn't hang down at high rpm.
I realize that.

I remember some folks mounting wooden blocks to their clutch pedal to limit downward travel too.

Fortunately I never had this issue.

Larry
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