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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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Ok well I’m finally thinking about tackling replacing my dash harness and I have to say I’m not too excited about it. I have read the long screws to pull out the cluster but I have to ask is it just easier to just pull the entire dash out. I don’t remember how I did it the first time...I assume the dash was out durning resto. I have a vintage air system so there are a few extra wires back there and the duct work and condenser might come into play in terms of room to get things done. Nine the less it needs to be done so weigh in on your thoughts on how I should tackle this. Thanks. Jim
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I'll address only one part. Remove the cluster for the best access on that side of the dash. Those who have VA can speak to those details. Dennis
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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If your pulling the entire dash out keep the cluster in and just make sure you have the dash harnes undone at the fuse block and undo the grounds and heat and ac cables and pull it all out at once
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 08:14 AM
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Don't forget the oil line. Also, have you thought about putting in LED's for the dash lights? Now would be the time. Jerry
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Don't forget the oil line. Also, have you thought about putting in LED's for the dash lights? Now would be the time. Jerry
And lube those tach and speedo cables !
You'll thank yourself later...
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Didn’t think about LEDs. Is there a kit??
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No kit that I know of, you have to "roll your own" as I did on my 63:


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Build your own kit. I changed out my interior bulbs and have bought, but yet to install, the bulbs in my dash. Try superbrightleds.com. They have charts etc. to help you out with your application. Jerry
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
No kit that I know of, you have to "roll your own" as I did on my 63:

That looks really good. I think that makes me want to stand on my head and change mine out for LEDS.
Did you do it without removing your Cluster?
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That looks really good. I think that makes me want to stand on my head and change mine out for LEDS.
Did you do it without removing your Cluster?
Yessir. I pulled the cluster forward about 2-3 inches on stand offs and dropped the steering column and put LEDs on all the gray wire instrument lights. It wasn’t fun but I got ‘er done.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Yessir. I pulled the cluster forward about 2-3 inches on stand offs and dropped the steering column and put LEDs on all the gray wire instrument lights. It wasn’t fun but I got ‘er done.
Thats certainly better than having to remove it.
I have had mine out had; Tach rebuilt, cleaned and painted everything and reinstalled. I think I did that in about 2006, LEDs were not a big item back then. I see bunch of LED replacements for 1816's in my future. But that project comes after the hardtop is done.
Did you use bright white or warm white?
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I used the BA9 "warm white" versions... It keeps the subtle color that the original 63 bulbs have without being harsh....
But note - your dash dimmer switch will work differently as the LEDs are non-linear when dimming. The gauges will dim satisfactorily but at some point just blink completely out; its the nature of the product.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I used the BA9 "warm white" versions... It keeps the subtle color that the original 63 bulbs have without being harsh....
But note - your dash dimmer switch will work differently as the LEDs are non-linear when dimming. The gauges will dim satisfactorily but at some point just blink completely out; its the nature of the product.
In layman's terms, about the level of dimness at which the bulbs blink out - just how dim is that point? Since I usually have all my car's dashes lights up full bright or close to it, I'm guessing that would not be a problem, unless the LED bulbs are blindingly bright (like some LED tail lights are).
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I used the BA9 "warm white" versions... It keeps the subtle color that the original 63 bulbs have without being harsh....
But note - your dash dimmer switch will work differently as the LEDs are non-linear when dimming. The gauges will dim satisfactorily but at some point just blink completely out; its the nature of the product.
Good point, we have some LED's on dimmers in the house that do the same thing when turned down too low.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
And lube those tach and speedo cables !
You'll thank yourself later...
Hey Frankie... what do you recommend for lubing the Speedo and tach cables?
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When I did my harness I had my seats, cluster, radio and glove box out. It was easy. Just plug your harness in the back of the cluster, then feed the harness in first. Pull it to the pass. side, connect the rest of the plugs and then screw your cluster in. I got the reproduction light bulb set and replaced all bulbs with the correct ones. And the added bonus of removing the cluster was that I took the clear gauge lens off and cleaned the back side of the lens. This cleaning made a big difference. I had people asking me if I installed new gauges.
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As to the LEDs dimming they will dim down to about 30%-40% of full brightness (maybe a bit less) then blink out - I'm fine with that as I usually run them full bright as well. Someday I'll make a video of the brightness change - someday...

Speedo Lube:

A graphite based product is best for lubing cables:

https://www.amazon.com/Ags-Kable-Ease-Cable-Lubricant-Tube/dp/B000ZO0EA2/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=cable+ease+lube&qid=1580664972&sr=8-2 https://www.amazon.com/Ags-Kable-Ease-Cable-Lubricant-Tube/dp/B000ZO0EA2/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=cable+ease+lube&qid=1580664972&sr=8-2



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