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From: Edmonds Washington (Stunning view of Olympic Mtns and Puget Sound)
2024 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
VERY TRUE!!!!!!!!! When I had my car judged and tried to present documented original paperwork the NCRS judges had no interest in seeing it. Maybe it is scepticisim from forgeries yet there is no problem with a re-stamped non-original engine block. Have long wanted to vent these differences and now have my flak jacket on so FIRE AWAY! begee22
VERY TRUE!!!!!!!!! When I had my car judged and tried to present documented original paperwork the NCRS judges had no interest in seeing it. Maybe it is scepticisim from forgeries yet there is no problem with a re-stamped non-original engine block. Have long wanted to vent these differences and now have my flak jacket on so FIRE AWAY! begee22
Restamped blocks get an 88 point hit IIRC. So there is a penalty for it.
VERY TRUE!!!!!!!!! When I had my car judged and tried to present documented original paperwork the NCRS judges had no interest in seeing it. Maybe it is scepticisim from forgeries yet there is no problem with a re-stamped non-original engine block. Have long wanted to vent these differences and now have my flak jacket on so FIRE AWAY! begee22
paper work is no longer a judged item. the POP booklet was once a judged item if the POP did not match the cars vin but they stopped that a while back.
Those with cars that still have real paper know there is great value in that paper.
Those with cars that lack all the paper (as 95% do) say that there is no value in having paper.
Don,
That is putting things in perspective. Paperwork is great on any car but as the horsepower/rarity goes up so goes the value of any dealer/factory paper.
I would think that a “discerning” Corvette enthusiast buyer would want, appreciate and be willing to pay more for a car with proper documentation. Would think this would be especially true if the car was a one owner. All documents available would be important but a original Protecto Plate would seem to me be most important. If it’s a three plus owner car that doesn’t have original equipment nor the buyer care about originality I can see why it would not be that important.
Let’s say you own or you are buying a C2 and the car has the tank sticker, window sticker, Protecto plate or maybe all of the receipts from a frame off restoration what value would you put on each one of these documents ?
Thanks
Ron
The bottom line is it is all perception for both a buyer or seller. To some people it is important (read value) to others it means nothing. It is really the same as the differences people assign to the value of a car with an original, born with drive train verses a non born with drive train. The value for these documents you are referring to have “0” value to people with restomods and with the soaring value of these restomods verses original, “born with” drive trains cars these cars and their documentation are suffering by comparison. The day may come that it “might” turn around with documented original cars seeing added value compared to today, time will tell. The younger people entering the market today want restomods.
When looking at a special car, big block, high horse, 63 coupe etc..., I have always figured the asking price, 1/3 the car, 1/3 the condition of the car, and 1/3 the paper work( being able to prove the car is real).
Think about it, put a number on a collectable car and do the math,
Not too long ago, I was considering buying a car I saw on Hemmings.
It was a 67 435hp coupe that the private seller had owned for 20 years.
The owner had the tank sticker, but never had the POP.
I started doing some research, and found an old ad online that was posted over a decade ago.
The ad was from a Florida dealer (initials J.C.) who was selling original Corvette documentation.
In his list of POPs, was one with the serial number matching this 67 I was interested in.
I contacted the documentation dealer and he said he still had the POP in his possession.
He offered it to me for $10, 000.
I didn't reply to his email, and he later contacted me saying he'd give me a special deal at $7,500.
I ended up not buying the car, but someone else eventually did.
I wonder if the new owner knows the POP for his car is out there if he wants it -- for a price.
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