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Old Nov 12, 2020 | 09:15 PM
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Speedo didn’t work for 20 years on the 63 T-10. When we restored the car in 13 it took two attempts to get the gear right on the tailstock. I wasn’t doing the work, but apparently they couldn’t get the gear either to stay or in the right place.

it worked until last year then, dead again. It’s not the cable, not the nylon gear. Check all those. Has to be the tailpiece gear.

so, couple things come to mind:

- anything anyone can think of to try before pulling the trans?
- do I have to pull the motor and trans or can I just remove the trans?

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Old Nov 12, 2020 | 10:21 PM
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If it is not the cable or the nylon gear but if you rotate the rear tires and the cable is in fact turning too, then I have to believe the problem is in your speedometer. If cable does not spin then good chance the metal speedo gear in the trans could be improperly located on its shaft. There is a measurement for how far the metal gear is pressed on the shaft (mid-plate to speedo gear). I don't know what the measurement is at the moment. If you look into the speedometer driven gear opening you should essentially see the metal speedo drive gear centered in the tailshaft opening. If the metal gear is the problem, the tailcase housing will have to come off for this repair. Pulling trans is all that is needed.

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Real men and racing Corvettes don't use speedos.

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Old Nov 14, 2020 | 09:29 AM
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If it is not the cable or the nylon gear but if you rotate the rear tires and the cable is in fact turning too, then I have to believe the problem is in your speedometer. If cable does not spin then good chance the metal speedo gear in the trans could be improperly located on its shaft. There is a measurement for how far the metal gear is pressed on the shaft (mid-plate to speedo gear). I don't know what the measurement is at the moment. If you look into the speedometer driven gear opening you should essentially see the metal speedo drive gear centered in the tailshaft opening. If the metal gear is the problem, the tailcase housing will have to come off for this repair. Pulling trans is all that is needed.
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Real men and racing Corvettes don't use speedos.

Great suggestion before yanking the motor. I will definitely try that. If the trans is all that has to come out, that’s not too bad. My buddy with the 67 big block thought the whole thing had to come out. Maybe his does for clearance issues.
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Real men and racing Corvettes don't use speedos.

I know.... but is is so annoying. With a near perfect 63 it just looks bad when I let other people drive it and the only thing wrong is no speedo! I also figure some day i will have to sell it and better to fix it now while I’m ‘young’.
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Old Nov 14, 2020 | 01:11 PM
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Is it a replacement speedo cable? I bought one for my 65 last year and the tip that engages in the nylon gear was a bit short. Looked like it would work but didnt. Got another replacement and same deal. Just cleaned up the original and worked fine.
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Real men and racing Corvettes don't use speedos.

How then can mileage be accrued? Would these miles then not be "original miles" but just miles?
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Originally Posted by jimmies63
Great suggestion before yanking the motor. I will definitely try that. If the trans is all that has to come out, that’s not too bad. My buddy with the 67 big block thought the whole thing had to come out. Maybe his does for clearance issues.
I am not a T-10 expert but some things I think I have learned rebuilding my 58 trans. Possibly some of this info may help as you proceed. The very early (57-58) T-10's used a long steel speedometer driven gear instead of plastic. I learned this as my trans had a Muncie plastic gear which had been driven into the tailcase....the muncie plastic gear diameter was larger than the T-10 and shorter. Additionally, the internal metal shaft gear comes in two tooth counts (8 and 7 teeth). One is for 3:70 to 4:56 rear gears and the other for the higher gear sets. Bottomline here is that make sure you have the right plastic gear for your trans and know what metal gear will be right for your rear gears. As I mentioned before, find out what the mid-plate to metal speedo gear distance is too.

Are you planning to do this repair yourself or take to a very "qualified" T-10 trans expert?

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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
How then can mileage be accrued? Would these miles then not be "original miles" but just miles?
My 76 ElCamino broke the speedometer at 74000 miles
So... my milage is original recorded miles.
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Originally Posted by tgtexas02
I am not a T-10 expert but some things I think I have learned rebuilding my 58 trans. Possibly some of this info may help as you proceed. The very early (57-58) T-10's used a long steel speedometer driven gear instead of plastic. I learned this as my trans had a Muncie plastic gear which had been driven into the tailcase....the muncie plastic gear diameter was larger than the T-10 and shorter. Additionally, the internal metal shaft gear comes in two tooth counts (8 and 7 teeth). One is for 3:70 to 4:56 rear gears and the other for the higher gear sets. Bottomline here is that make sure you have the right plastic gear for your trans and know what metal gear will be right for your rear gears. As I mentioned before, find out what the mid-plate to metal speedo gear distance is too.

Are you planning to do this repair yourself or take to a very "qualified" T-10 trans expert?
if I have to remove the trans, I will be looking for someone with T-10 experience. Transmissions are not my strong suit That said, finding one will be another issue!
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Originally Posted by jimmies63
if I have to remove the trans, I will be looking for someone with T-10 experience. Transmissions are not my strong suit That said, finding one will be another issue!
I dealt with D&L Transmissions which is in New York and I live in Texas. Larry is a first class guy too!
http://dandltransmission.com/

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