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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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I'm planning on painting my car in a couple of months and have found a local body shop that will rent me their paint booth. The radiator and support have been removed to get access to some areas that will need to be painted.

Since I will need to trailer the car to the paint shop, I wonder if it is OK to start and run the engine to drive it out my garage and onto the trailer and then into the paint booth without the radiator and coolant. Should I remove the fan belt? I'm pretty sure it will be OK, but wanted to get the forum member's opinion.

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Originally Posted by Ktholin
I'm planning on painting my car in a couple of months and have found a local body shop that will rent me their paint booth. The radiator and support have been removed to get access to some areas that will need to be painted.

Since I will need to trailer the car to the paint shop, I wonder if it is OK to start and run the engine to drive it out my garage and onto the trailer and then into the paint booth without the radiator and coolant. Should I remove the fan belt? I'm pretty sure it will be OK, but wanted to get the forum member's opinion.
I have done similar things without issue but only for less than a couple of minutes or so.

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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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short run usually is fine, but have a stop watch, maybe 2 mins max. If the radiator is out, I'd pull the belt from the water pump, plug or duct tape the water pump fittings and fill the motor with water up to the top, that would take away the chance of hot spots and allow for a few mins of safe running imo.
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 09:25 AM
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68sixspeed has an excellent idea, follow his advice. 2 minutes without water would be too long for me.
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 09:44 AM
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A two minute run or less is fine. I would take the water pump belt off so as not to damage the seal. Water acts as a lubricant. Jerry
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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When I run my engines to check for leaks . I use a piece of PVC pipe w 2- 90's on it and the rad hoses to connect inlet and outlet together, fill with water or antifreeze. I then can run the engine till it gets warm- safely. You should do the same, I don't like the idea of a dry engine running and for sure don't run the water pump dry.
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 10:33 AM
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You could also use an expandable pipe plug and rubber cap on the water pump outlets.







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All great ideas. Thanks so much.
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I like the expanding plug idea, going to have to get some of those from home depot or lowes just for such emergencies. I've had it with newer vehicles where I'm waiting for parts and need to slide one to the side, that would be a great way of keeping water in the motor and also not making a mess.

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Why take a chance?! Does that trailer have a winch installed? If not, go rent one. You can also use it to pull the car into the booth.
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I like the idea to keep coolant in the block, I also think anything over one minute is pushing safety.
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Old Feb 9, 2021 | 02:08 PM
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A buddy of mine had a '58 270/283 as his daily driver. Had to drive about 5-6 miles to work, one way. He let it freeze up because of no anti-freeze. The block would no longer hold water so he drove it to work anyway. He'd drive about halfway in the afternoon and stop at the gas station hangout and let it cool a little, then drive on to work. When he got off work, he'd drive about halfway to the drive-in restaurant everybody hung out at and let it cool again.

That went on for about three years or so.

Two minutes with no water in the engine? I don't see any issue at all. Most car heaters I'm used to take longer than that to start blowing warm air.

I wouldn't fill the block with water. If the water gets hot, guess what's going to happen?
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Shortest time possible. Lost a freeze plug recently did the same..if you make it quick the rings wont get any damage
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