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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 07:14 PM
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I'm making pretty good progress getting the 383 stroker in my '61. Lots of little surprises and challenges like left hand mount alternator in the same location as the surge tank. Fortunately I was on the edge of opting for a new Dewitts radiator with an electric fan so I got one with a fill cap on the radiator. The different radiator was also necessitated by the fact that I didn't realize I should have installed a water pump with a hose connection on the top of the water pump for a surge tank line. I'm learning a lot as I feel my way through the dark. All good stuff.

Question: So now I notice my engine builder used a fuel pump that is set up for a return line. Do I really need one? I hate to run a return line and hack it into the top of the tank. I appreciate your thoughts.

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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 09:12 PM
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Whats the plan for the pcv system? How does oil go in? A fuel pump return line is a strange choice. Cant see the need for that.
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 09:19 PM
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Whats the plan for the pcv system? How does oil go in? A fuel pump return line is a strange choice. Cant see the need for that.

They are a good idea with today’s fuel that likes to perc. You don’t return it to the top of the tank but into the discharge/sender area.
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 11:07 PM
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Mechanical or electric pump?
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 12:24 AM
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If you use EFI you will need a return line.
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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It's a mechanical pump.
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 07:54 AM
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I too am curious as to how you put the oil in? No need for a return line with a carb. Why didn't you just mount the alternator on the pass side and run a surge tank? What tranny are you running behind it?
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 08:07 AM
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It's a little late now, but your intake manifold has bosses that could be machined for an oil fill tube. Also, looks like your carb has a port opposite of the fuel inlet. Is that where the return line is supposed to attach? As others have said, it would help keep the fuel cool and less prone to percolating. But, if it were me, I'd probably replace the pump you have with a regular mechanical pump.

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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 09:18 AM
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You have to heed what has been mentioned. There's no place to add oil, there's no ventilation, if you don't fix these you are going to be a very unhappy camper. These aren't options they are must haves. Your builder should have known this.
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Thanks for the replies, I especially appreciate you guys looking over my shoulder for my best interests!

The PCV is milled into the back left valve cover just where it intersects with the air cleaner in the picture, it's very hard to see in the picture. The oil fill is in the front left corner of the the driver's side valve cover, the black rubber grommet is the oil fill. I got the valve covers from PML. They are a little taller to accommodate the roller rockers. And if you pay a little extra $$$ they drill the holes for the oil fill and PCV. I thought it would clean up the look of the engine.



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I strongly suggest to get rid of that air cleaner. They are known fire hazards.
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No need for a return line with mechanical pump. And I like your air cleaner


Not sure about fire hazard's but they do make you want to drink beer
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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Have you checked the height of the air cleaner for hood clearance?
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I had to cut down the collar on the base to get the clearance and I'm still not positive it will clear. I may have to go to a drop base with a low profile air filter.
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You may be able to use a stock C1 air cleaner which is pretty low. A 67 GTO air cleaner base (available in reproduction), which has a 5 1/8 in. hole, may fit your carburetor and will accept the C1 louvered top.
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Make sure there is some type of baffle on that pvc otherwise it's just an oil vacuum. But at least it's there!
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There is a baffle in that rubber grommet.

Got the bumpers on last night, just waiting for the radiator and exhaust. They are victims of pandemic supply chain delays.
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Make sure there is some type of baffle on that pvc otherwise it's just an oil vacuum. But at least it's there!
been there done that!!
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There is a baffle in that rubber grommet.

Got the bumpers on last night, just waiting for the radiator and exhaust. They are victims of pandemic supply chain delays.

love the side ports on those valve covers !
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Originally Posted by 70GHH
Question: So now I notice my engine builder used a fuel pump that is set up for a return line. Do I really need one? I hate to run a return line and hack it into the top of the tank. I appreciate your thoughts.
Garth
I am assuming you are taking about a mechanical three line pump. The third line, which is usually 1/4", has approx. .040" restrictor in it and if you do not use it just cap it off and no harm will be done.
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