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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 09:55 PM
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My 1966 327/350 starts good, but when winding out in the gears the it misses badly even though it acts like it wants to run great. Would a Pertronix ignitor or a MSD system help the intermittent firing problems? Thank you for your help.
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 10:12 PM
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I think you'd want to solve the misfire problem first. Start with the basics- points, condenser, dwell, timing, timing map. There's tons of info in the archives.
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 10:24 PM
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I agree with John.

The stock ignition is well capable of 6500+ RPM if everything is in good condition.

Instead of throwing dollars at your high RPM miss, find out what the real problem is.
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 10:31 PM
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I have an MSD system in a recently acquired L 72. I will gladly swap you for your traditional points/condenser setup.
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When was the last time, date and milage, you did a full tune up with all new ignition parts? Things deteriorate just from age. Start fresh instead of replacing one part within some of the other questionable ones. Plug wires come to mind. Just a thought. Dennis
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Check your fuel filter too.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Hampton
I have an MSD system in a recently acquired L 72. I will gladly swap you for your traditional points/condenser setup.
I am very happy with my 2 ac delco rebuilt and recurved points distributors. Have a 65 cast iron Chevelle unit in my carbed 84 C4 and a 70 Pontiac aluminum one in my 65 470" Gto . Using Smp Blue Streak cap, points and condenser. Had advanceddistributors.com in Shakopee, Mn do the rebuilds for me. I have been stranded with hei coil and module failures more times than I care to remember!
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Originally Posted by cocarpenter
My 1966 327/350 starts good, but when winding out in the gears the it misses badly even though it acts like it wants to run great. Would a Pertronix ignitor or a MSD system help the intermittent firing problems? Thank you for your help.
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What spark plugs are you running, and when were they last changed?? Your engine likes AC 45 plugs (available Ebay).........or perhaps AC R45 plugs (likely still available most places).

Colder plugs will foul quickly in street driving.

Use Delco D106P or D106PS points (Ebay/cheap)...........or a set of Delco D112P if you can find and afford them. One set should last 12,000 to 20,000 miles. . Probably a lifetime for most of us.

What is the condition of your wires?? They need some love also.

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Originally Posted by Dan Hampton
I have an MSD system in a recently acquired L 72. I will gladly swap you for your traditional points/condenser setup.

Yeah. Over the years I have had them all. Mallory, MSD, Mopar electronic, GM capacitor discharge, Pertronix etc. Unless you have a TRUE race car that you are running 8k rpms or more the factory single point distributor is my choice.

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Yeah. Over the years I have had them all. Mallory, MSD, Mopar electronic, GM capacitor discharge, Pertronix etc. Unless you have a TRUE race car that you are running 8k rpms or more the factory single point distributor is my choice.
Had a friend who built a 347 Ford Stroker for his Cobra. He had some curious transitional stumble at around 2,500 rpm. He was convinced it was the carburetor. He swapped out three units with varying degrees of success but the problem still existed. In the end, the problem was with the Pertronix unit. What most people don't understand---and most experienced mechanics of old will tell you---is that 90% of tuneability issues lie with the ignition side, not carburetion. Rochester FI gets the blame with Chevrolets; SU systems with the Brit cars; and Webers take the rap with Ferraris and Cobras.

These systems have very few, if any, moving parts. If the fuel is clean and they are set up properly, there should never be a problem.

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Originally Posted by cocarpenter
My 1966 327/350 starts good, but when winding out in the gears the it misses badly even though it acts like it wants to run great.
I have experienced what you describe in two different cars and each time it was the coil - after chasing everything else. On one car the replacement coil was bad too!

As has been suggested, before condemning the points system, try to find the root cause. A properly adjusted and functioning points ignition will return many miles of smiles.

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