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As many of you know from my past posts, I hit a small Javelina with my 65 a while back. It damaged the grille, left front bumper and did some fiberglass damage to the lower valance and turn signal area as well as a little headlight damage.
My car had only been painted once since the factory in it’s original color in lacquer in the 80s. The paint was a 5-10 footer and I it had some lacquer cracks that could only be seen in certain light and did not show in photos. If this accident had not happened I had no intention of painting this car.
So, as with all projects one thing leads to another. Needing one head light motor prompted me to buy a pair of Detroit Speed units. The windshield was leaking at the bottom as most midyears do so I have the windshield pulled, channel cleaned, a new gasket and molding clips. Pictures below show the incredibly clean channel/birdcage.
I had this car insured with Allstate and in the past discussions about insurance many had warned me about coverage. Since the Javeina went under the car and came out the driver’s side rear flipping up and damaged the rear quarter wheel lip. With there being no real breaking points on all the panels that needed paint, Allstate is paying to paint the entire car.
I insisted on no base coat clear coat and am having the car repainted in single stage acrylic enamel. This paint is easily matched in case there is ever any other need for paint work in the future. It will be color sanded and will look like original lacquer paint of the 60s rather than the typical “glazed ham” look most bc/cc paint jobs have.
I will update this thread with more pictures as this job progresses.
Sounds like a familiar story, I hit a 'pair' of Javelina one early morning about 4 years ago with my 66 Mosport Coupe. The small one hit on the left front turn signal, the adult got hit on the passenger side at the turn signal but that flexed the pass side fender enough to crack it at the back of the wheel well opening. My Coupe had numerous paint jobs in it's life including the last one done in the PO's driveway so it was time to pull it all apart and get it completely painted. That also prompted me to finally replace all the carpeting and at the same time, add in Dynamat and additional padding. A ton of work tearing it all down for paint and then all the work to put it back together again but I'm happy with the way it turned out.
I just have to be more careful of the wildlife around here :-O.
I would use single stage urethane long before old enamel, even with hardener. Single stage urethane looks much more like a high quality lacquer paint job than enamel and is far more durable, less prone to chips and stress cracks, Enamel is what Mopar used if you want it to look like a Mopar. Single stage has gloss but not like the glazed ham look of BC/CC. It’s generally easy to touch up, at least in solid colors and as well as anything else. I’ve painted it - PPG Concept. it’s a far superior paint to enamel or lacquer.
Phil - Sort of a long story (which seems to be my MO) so I'll PM you my email address and we can chat about paint shops here in the Prescott Area.
Mike T - Prescott AZ
I would respectfully submit that you should reconsider your decision on a single stage enamel with no clear coat.
As other posters have indicated, a modern urethane is far superior to the old acrylics. More importantly, a clear coat provides for UV protection that a single stage color coat cannot. Further, a top quality clear is essential for long term UV protection. You can achieve a glass smooth appearance by “color” sanding and floating a final coat, followed by compounding and final detailing. Lot of work? Yes. Expensive? Yes. But in the end you will have paint that looks like the factory lacquer, will be highly resistant to cracking, and be highly resistant to fade.
PPG recommends a 2 mil clear layer. I encourage you to do your own research on how UV protection works as it is all based in science. I shot my 69 in House of Kolor Kosmic Kolor urethane 35 years ago and it looks today just like it did the day I sprayed it.
You said that you had new clips for the windshield trim. I suggest that you keep the old ones and try to reuse them. The new clips are junk and most good glass shops will tell you that. If you insist on using new clips, I will be happy to buy your old ones.
I think the term "Glazed Ham" is the perfect description of how a BC/CC car looks compared to the old lacquer cars. The old cars when they were brand new never shined like the newer paint combos. I would stick with the PPG Concept with no clear coat on it. If you drive/treat your car like most of us, it will not be harmed by the sun or bad weather.
I think the term "Glazed Ham" is the perfect description of how a BC/CC car looks compared to the old lacquer cars. The old cars when they were brand new never shined like the newer paint combos. I would stick with the PPG Concept with no clear coat on it. If you drive/treat your car like most of us, it will not be harmed by the sun or bad weather.
Yes, they stick out like a sore thumb at a car show next to a single stage painted car. The original paint type paint jobs have a softer hue and are much more pleasing to the eye IMO.
Yes, they stick out like a sore thumb at a car show next to a single stage painted car. The original paint type paint jobs have a softer hue and are much more pleasing to the eye IMO.
Strongly agree, don't make it too shiny or too slick. Stay as close to the original finish as possible, a single stage urethane will do that and hold up much better than the original lacquer. A C2 body has some waves and body shrinkage over time revealing underlying supports, that's ok too. But hey, that's just me, make your car your own.
I never heard of a Javelina until now, so I Googled it. Turns out that is probably the only road hazard I will not need to worry about in Chicago.
Paint job looks like it is going well.
Yes, they are a sw states creature that we could do without as I see know value to them whatsoever. Of course you could say the same for your white tail deer but at least they are a beautiful animal.
Yes, they are a sw states creature that we could do without as I see know value to them whatsoever. …….
Actually the younger ones are quite tasty, I’ve hunted quail south of Phoenix quite a bit, and always took a small caliber long range rifle along for Javelina’s
I never heard of a Javelina until now, so I Googled it. Turns out that is probably the only road hazard I will not need to worry about in Chicago.
Paint job looks like it is going well.
Yes my Dad used to have the head of one mounted, hanging in his pool table room. Definitely a gnarly thing with big tusks. When he held his estate sale I tried to get my wife to let me bring it back home with us but she refused. I still pine over it’s loss - I should have hung it in the garage.
No Javelina in southern Virginia, so our biggest hazards are the crazy drivers. We could discuss but I think our local idiots could rival anyone's. Learning a lot about paint.
Yes, they stick out like a sore thumb at a car show next to a single stage painted car. The original paint type paint jobs have a softer hue and are much more pleasing to the eye IMO.
So, I'm just curious, several of these posts make a good case for urethane single stage over the enamel single stage you've chosen for your '65's paint job, but you haven't addressed the friendly cases being made about the superiority of urethane. Based on what a few of these seemingly experienced/knowledgeable folks (and I'm sure you are very experienced/knowledgeable as well!) have stated, has it caused you to question your choice at all?
(They've sold me on the urethane!)
1965 repaint
Of course you could say the same for your white tail deer but at least they are a beautiful animal.
