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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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For those who have moved their outer tie rods to the inner tighter steering radius position did it make a noticeable difference?
My car is a manual steering 65 with a 16” steering wheel. The tires are 215/70/15.
I was curious if it was worth it for a street driven only car?
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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 02:52 PM
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Marshal: I made the change to both my 66 and 68 cars before I added power steering to both. The lock to lock is reduced, but the effort to steer the car in tight spaces increases. I drove my 68 with manual steering in the inner mode for years and enjoyed it. When I got older, not so much, so I added PS. Try it and see. If you have a Muncie shifter, you can also drop a notch on the linkage and have a shorter throw as well. Jerry
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Happy New Year Jerry,
Did you think with manual steering it was worthwhile to move the tie rods for everyday street driving?
I figured the turning would be tougher from a standstill.
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I have my tie rods in the inner holes on my '64. Steering is a bit harder at rest or parallel parking, etc. I wouldn't spend the time to make the change, as there isn't that much of a difference between the two in everyday street driving.
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I had my tie rods moved to most forward holes in 1963 at the 19,000 mile marker. I run the biggest tires I can on the front (and rear) and have not changed back to the original rear tie rod holes. I do not have power steering either and no plans to add it. It does require more arm strong to turn the steering wheel, so rolling the wheels gets that done. I continue to drive many miles at a time with no issues. It has also saved our bacon several times to have the fast steering on board.

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Steve Stone (original owner, '63 triple black convertible, 610,000 miles)
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It's subjective but as I was advised by a member when I contemplated this issue, you can relocate to the inner position and give her a try. You will need to have the toe aligned but for a test drive you would be fine. That toe will need to be aligned even should you decide to put the rods back into the aft positions.
As I intended to R&R the entire steering assembly from steering wheel to spindles on my 66 327 I did move the rods to the quick steer position just before winter. Mine is a manual steer as well and I have a tight 90* turn on my driveway to enter the garage, the kind that requires backing up once to get her in on the 2nd pass. This maneuver always required some grunt. Honestly could not say I noticed a substantial increase in effort with the fast steer. Where I did notice it was on the drive when negotiating corners. Found the turn in more responsive which I really liked. Super excited to drive her again in the spring now that I have replaced all the assembly parts, rebuilt the relay rod and had Gary do the gear box. I'll just have the alignment set and I am anticipating a driving season with a tactile improvement in steering performance. I am 61 and in good shape (at the moment anyway).
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Originally Posted by marshal135
Hello Forum,
For those who have moved their outer tie rods to the inner tighter steering radius position did it make a noticeable difference?
My car is a manual steering 65 with a 16” steering wheel. The tires are 215/70/15.
I was curious if it was worth it for a street driven only car?
Thanks,
Marshal
I have manual steering, tie rods at inner holes, the same tires on my 66 and have been driving it like this for over 40,000 miles. It definitely improves the way it steers. It is a little stiffer at parking speeds. As I'm getting older I consider adding powering steering before I would move the tie rods back to the outer holes.
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Allot of great experienced responses. Now I have to decide?
Thank you everyone.
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