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Old Apr 12, 2022 | 07:43 PM
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My 65 Corvette with a NOM has a ZZ454 with a Holley Avenger 770 carb w/electric choke. I'm also running a Mallory Unilite distributor. Every day when I go to start my car, I pump the gas pedal 4-5 times, hear the choke set and then start the car.
It will start but initially it seems to run on 2-3 cylinders and takes about 35-45 seconds to eventually run on all 8 cylinders.
The car runs great all day long after that.
I've rebuilt the Holley carb and set the primary and secondary jets with a vacuum gage to 3/4 turn out on each screw, that's where it seems to run best.
Any thoughts or suggestions as to why this engine runs that poorly at start-up? Really appreciate and help. Thanks.
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Old Apr 12, 2022 | 07:46 PM
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Before you adjusted your carb, was it running rich? Would it force you out of the garage with watering eyes? 4-5 pumps of the pedal is alot to get the car to start. Mine is one and done. My first guess is the plugs are fouled.
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Originally Posted by badbirdws6
Before you adjusted your carb, was it running rich? Would it force you out of the garage with watering eyes? 4-5 pumps of the pedal is alot to get the car to start. Mine is one and done. My first guess is the plugs are fouled.
My thought also. What would happen if you pump the accelerator only one time?
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Originally Posted by nfran
Every day when I go to start my car, I pump the gas pedal 4-5 times, hear the choke set and then start the car.
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You are flooding the engine, soaking the plugs and causing it to run like **** until operating temp and a blast of high RPM power. I have experienced the exact same symptoms with my L78, my 63 Galaxie and a friends 64 365 HP if too much pump shot is added on a cold start attempt. All have big Holley and these have decent pump shots. Unlike my AFB's, 4GC, and WCFB's the Holley need only set the choke and one stroke to restart every day. After 3 months I crank to the count of 4, pause and do again. (or fill the bowls with a mustard bottle). Then set the choke, then ONE full stroke. Wait for the count of 5 and crank. If the carb is happy it will light off.

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One pump on my L72 and she is good to go. Once I when it was colder, I gave it three and it loaded up and ran like crap for the first 4 or 5 minutes. Sounds like that is your problem.
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Guys, I’ll give the one pump and see what happens. Will post findings tomorrow
Thanks.
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You might also check you choke pull off adjustment to make sure it’s opening the choke plate sufficiently upon firing to avoid an over-rich condition initially which will make for rough running. I’m experiment in with this on a couple of my cars. Stored in a garage with temps in the 60s, the usual choke factory adjustments seem to be too rich so I’m opening up the choke pull uff on my Corvette. On a car with an AFB and self contained thermostatic choke coil (no pull off) I’m setting it to the lean side to reduce a too rich condition and rough running.
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Clean or replace your plugs. Too much gas
at start up. Your engine should run on all 8
cylinders not 3 or 4.
Good luck
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Well, the last couple of days, I've been hitting accelerator once to set choke and one small shot, car starts right up and runs on all 8 cylinders. I'll check/change out the plugs if necessary.
I drove it for 100 miles in 2 days and it drove great.
There's that old saying, "you can't teach and old dog new tricks", well this old dog learned a new one for future reference. Pure stupidity on my part.

Thanks guys.
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Get out on the highway and drive at highway speeds for several miles and the plugs will clean themselves. No need to do anything special.
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Nick - Glad to hear your 65 is starting easier now. What plugs are you running and if you do check them, let us know what they look like.
Mike T - Prescott AZ
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Awesome. I agree with the others, Run in for a while, the plugs should clean themselves up.
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