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Old May 7, 2022 | 08:29 AM
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The original key is of no extra value in judging. And likely no extra value to the car in general. When new the keys would not pull out of the ignition in run position. Only in off or lock.
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Old May 7, 2022 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by carl3989
How much having an original key for a Corvette increases the selling price. Is it necessary for example to win top prize at an NCRS judging event? I'm serious in this question so that I may get a handle on the esoterica of old vette restoration and the value of certain parts. I thank you in advance for your comments please.
I don’t think it has any effect on the value at all. It’s a fun thing to have or reproduce.

The keys are judged as part of an NCRS Flight judging. The points are minimal, but easy to get if the keys are right. So a lot of effort goes into it because it’s a relatively cheap investment for points. Guys spend far more to get a few points here and there.

I don’t plan to Flight judge my car- the engine is a non-original engine and not even the right casting- and my chassis, while restored, is not nut-bolt correct. But I do like this kind of ephemera and so the key details are interesting to me. I’m going to get a set of NOS blanks, have them cut, and stamp them myself with a set of number dies I have. Just a fun thing to display with the car. I have an original period-correct plate frame from my selling dealer, a nice reproduction window sticker, an original dealer keychain from the era, and I’ve registered ‘60s original tags to my car. All part of reproducing all of these little details of a ‘60s car which I remember and hold dear. I even had a reproduction DAV/Idento-Tag made for my keychain with the license number, because I LOVED those as a kid.
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Old May 7, 2022 | 08:48 AM
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Well, my '64 is NOM, NOC and now I find it's NOK as well.
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LOL. I remember those DAV tags, in NY they were yellow made out of shiny paper with a silver metal frame. Gosh I haven't seen one in ages. Thanks for the memory. (that was a song, wasn't it?) LOL
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Old May 7, 2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
The original key is of no extra value in judging. And likely no extra value to the car in general. When new the keys would not pull out of the ignition in run position. Only in off or lock.
Are you sure about that? My memory is that my '63's key will come out in either RUN or LOCK, but not OFF. I'm not near it at the moment to confirm, unfortunately.
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Old May 7, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by carl3989
LOL. I remember those DAV tags, in NY they were yellow made out of shiny paper with a silver metal frame. Gosh I haven't seen one in ages. Thanks for the memory. (that was a song, wasn't it?) LOL
Me too , I have my uncles DAV tag from 65 Black plate 64 Worlds fair with the 65 reg sticker on it . As far as original keys I have no idea about value it's the "Oh yeah check this out" factor. I will take pics of the DAV tag and post as soon as i get my mojo going
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Old May 7, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Are you sure about that? My memory is that my '63's key will come out in either RUN or LOCK, but not OFF. I'm not near it at the moment to confirm, unfortunately.
The key was needed to unlock the Ign switch. When it went to run the key was able to be removed and as long as it was not switched back to the "Lock" position you didn't need the key. It changed in 65
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Old May 7, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DinoBob
I don’t think it has any effect on the value at all. It’s a fun thing to have or reproduce.

The keys are judged as part of an NCRS Flight judging. The points are minimal, but easy to get if the keys are right. So a lot of effort goes into it because it’s a relatively cheap investment for points. Guys spend far more to get a few points here and there.

I don’t plan to Flight judge my car- the engine is a non-original engine and not even the right casting- and my chassis, while restored, is not nut-bolt correct. But I do like this kind of ephemera and so the key details are interesting to me. I’m going to get a set of NOS blanks, have them cut, and stamp them myself with a set of number dies I have. Just a fun thing to display with the car. I have an original period-correct plate frame from my selling dealer, a nice reproduction window sticker, an original dealer keychain from the era, and I’ve registered ‘60s original tags to my car. All part of reproducing all of these little details of a ‘60s car which I remember and hold dear. I even had a reproduction DAV/Idento-Tag made for my keychain with the license number, because I LOVED those as a kid.
I'd like to know how the stamping goes. Those knock outs were designed to be "knock outs" Kent Moore even made a special tool for them , nothing elaborate no hammer needed , I have one it takes no pressure at all to get the knock outs out. Thanks in advance , Jim
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
Well, my '64 is NOM, NOC and now I find it's NOK as well.
That's the one car I would never buy ! NOK , never would even consider it.
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Old May 7, 2022 | 11:03 AM
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The #1 key of mine has an r on it also in the same spot as yours. The original title has the has the key number written on it in the upper left corner 8015
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Originally Posted by 1powdercoater
The #1 key of mine has an r on it also in the same spot as yours. The original title has the has the key number written on it in the upper left corner 8015
You bought up a nice topic and I meant to compliment you on that. Your two keys posted are not original manufactures keys. The GM key may have been cut by the dealer as spares but not one of the two keys shipped with the car. As far as the code on the invoice , Save that incase you should misplace your keys a new key can be cut from that code.
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Picked up these GM A blanks ( 1967 ) about 35 years ago from a Chevrolet dealer cleaning out their old stock
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Originally Posted by 56early
The key was needed to unlock the Ign switch. When it went to run the key was able to be removed and as long as it was not switched back to the "Lock" position you didn't need the key. It changed in 65
Discovered this while test driving my brother's 62 Nova convertible. And all this time, we thought it was just old & worn out!
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Old Aug 4, 2022 | 05:46 PM
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Thank you, This is just for my own notes. I was just curious about when the trademark first made its appearance .
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I believe the registered trademark symbol (upper case letter R inside a circle), appeared on GM keys starting on January 1, 1963. The only person I knew who ever tried to research that question was Pete Lindahl. I never saw Pete’s data, so I don’t know if he confirmed the 1/1/63 date or not. But Pete told me that date was reasonable to use for the start of the R keys.

My suspicion is that Corvette locksets that were made in very late December of 1962 and didn’t get installed on Corvettes until after 1/1/63 could well have No-R keys. But when I do lock and key work for people I go by the 1/1/63 date for the start of the R keys, and Dec 31 or earlier for the No-R keys.

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