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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 07:47 PM
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Looks like the site is open, c2jacks.com I read somewhere on the site they had over 25 originals, is this all they have left?
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All I see available are some 63-64's, a 65 and 65-66 rebuilt, repainted originals.
The reproduction jacks they claim to have been manufacturing are not seen for sale on the site. (not at this time anyway)
Their web designer and marketing manager need to up their game.
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 10:19 PM
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All I see available are mostly 63-64 rebuilt repainted originals and a 65 and 65-66.
None of the reproduction jacks they have been touting are seen for sale on the site.
Their web designer and marketing manager need to up their game.
I emailed the company and they will be putting up repro's in the next few weeks. She said that they are hoping to sell some originals to pay for a piece of tooling they need.
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 07:43 AM
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All I see available are some 63-64's, a 65 and 65-66 rebuilt, repainted originals.
The reproduction jacks they claim to have been manufacturing are not seen for sale on the site. (not at this time anyway)
Their web designer and marketing manager need to up their game.
I find it interesting that you are disappointed in that they do not have repro's yet. Normally people are looking for originals and are complaining about repros lol
When I was looking for an original, I was offered a "take it or leave it ",repro for $900US from the NCRS guy, so I welcome at least someplace where 63-67 people can get one without selling the farm. I got an original from this couple and they did not hose me on the price. I have an original now with an O handle.
They are an older couple who are doing this as a hobby out of their home. They are making every part by hand using US steel. They cannot afford liability coverage and were told to just declare everything on their site a "Show Jack" I know they have been approached by numerous corvette parts companies to supply them with jacks but they would prefer to keep it a mom and pop thing supplying corvette people with a lower price.
I was on their site, in fact, its how I got my jack, I was looking anywhere and everywhere on the net for someplace I could buy a jack and the site came up on a google search. I thought the site was well done, they have disabled 80% of the pages so people would not email them asking for the cost of repros.
They blew the motor in their milling machine, making the custom Die's and Punches, some of them made out of 2 inch steel, the fellow got sick with COVID, and the post office lost some of their customized tooling. some of their suppliers did not meet their deadlines (surprise!)
The guy that was supplying all of the arms for the jack, went bankrupt and took their order with him. So they bought a small Plasma table. Add to that a recession, price of steel doubling, parts doubling, Putin, COVID and the woke Gen and suddenly things are not the same as they were a year ago !
I stick up for small business, and considering the husband and wife are doing this as a hobby to help corvette people after seeing all the complaints about scalping, I am sure they would be disappointed at the term "tout".
All I am doing is trying to get the word out they exist before, like other businesses, they die before getting started. The alternative for them is to supply to corvette shops where a 30% premium will be added, and because they cannot make that many a month, the price will edge up and up. That's not what they want. http://c2jacks.com
Marketing manager? really? I told them I would help to get the word out, after they did me a solid, so I guess I must be it?

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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 08:38 AM
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We need more people like this. I can't get anyone to even call me back, no matter the price - $5 to $5,000.
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Originally Posted by TC233
I find it interesting that you are disappointed in that they do not have repro's yet.
Not sure why you say I am disappointed . I never said that in my post and I am not in the least disappointed. I am only interested to see how this plays out from a small business perspective.
I dont need a jack as I have my cars original.
Seeing as there is only a finite number of originals on the planet, logically, the only successful way forward for this business is to mfr a quality reproduction that has a profit margin large enough to fuel production costs and product promotion.
Last month a notice on their web page a notice said the delay in opening for sales was due to a contractual agreement to sell their jacks to a well known Corvette parts supply retailer
They didnt say which one.
I wish them great success.

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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by phil2302
Not sure why you say I am disappointed . I never said that in my post and I am not in the least disappointed. I am only interested to see how this plays out from a small business perspective.
I dont need a jack as I have my cars original.
Seeing as there is only a finite number of originals on the planet, logically, the only successful way forward for this business is to mfr a quality reproduction that has a profit margin large enough to fuel production costs and product promotion.
Last month a notice on their web page a notice said the delay in opening for sales was due to a contractual agreement to sell their jacks to a well known Corvette parts supply retailer
They didnt say which one.
I wish them great success.
Yes, they found out the company would add 35% to the price of their jacks and wanted them not to sell on their website. So they ditched that idea , only after breaking their mill trying to get things done quicker.
Its tough to do a startup as a hobby, you either have to produce hundreds or keep it a hobby. It takes them 4 days to produce one jack to replicate an exact copy. So its not like anyone would jump in to take their place if they decide to quit because of no support. They were telling me that they even have to machine in the target rings on the face of the rivets for some part of the jack rivets because the target rings are not available in that size of rivet ? After they sell some of their originals they want to produce an aged reproduction so he is building this contraption that beats the hell out of the arms and top making it look like it was rusted underneath the paint.
He did one by hand and says it even fools him, so he will punch an R somewhere on the jack so people do not try to re-sell them as originals.

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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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Aren't these the same jacks used in the Corvair cars of the era?
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Originally Posted by tbarb
Aren't these the same jacks used in the Corvair cars of the era?
Nope

The LIC jack was a good reproduction for the Type I jack. The screw on the LIC jack is 14 7/8 long and the original was 14 3/4 long. The LIC jack use a NICE 603 bearing and the original used an Irwin H-2 bearing. There may be other lengths or bearings, but this is all I've ever seen.

Maybe ZIP has a few left from LIC?


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Nope

The LIC jack was a good reproduction for the Type I jack. The screw on the LIC jack is 14 7/8 long and the original was 14 3/4 long. The LIC jack use a NICE 603 bearing and the original used an Irwin H-2 bearing. There may be other lengths or bearings, but this is all I've ever seen.

Maybe ZIP has a few left from LIC?


LIC stopped having them manufactured years ago.
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by phil2302
LIC stopped having them manufactured years ago.
Yes, but were they any in stock that went to ZIP. Only a phone call away.
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Can someone tell me what the correct type would be for a February built 63. I am interested in an original.

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Originally Posted by deejaydu
Can someone tell me what the correct type would be for a February built 63. I am interested in an original.

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The C2 Type I jack, undated, was used from the 63 model year to about mid-way through the 65 model year.
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Bought one from ZIP. It was slightly larger OD and interference fit on ID.
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Bought one from ZIP. It was slightly larger OD and interference fit on ID.
I may be wrong but I think they only offer a C3 jack for quite some time now.
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Vette Products of Michigan may have jacks.
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Originally Posted by deejaydu
Can someone tell me what the correct type would be for a February built 63. I am interested in an original.

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You would need a type 1 Jack

The site is responding to some of the comments here , they enabled all their pages even though they aren't ready to sell anything but originals.

They also explain what is going on with production https://c2jacks.com/2022-90.html
They have a timeline for the different jacks graphically too, which is rather neat. https://c2jacks.com/images/shop/jack/timeline.jpg
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I like this 73 year old and his hobby business in Montana. I wish I needed a Type 1 OEM jack. At $650 his origies are a bargain...
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
I like this 73 year old and his hobby business in Montana. I wish I needed a Type 1 OEM jack. At $650 his origies are a bargain...
Not really, I paid $450 for mine but needed to be cleaned up which I did.
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
I like this 73 year old and his hobby business in Montana. I wish I needed a Type 1 OEM jack. At $650 his origies are a bargain...
No, I paid $450 for mine.
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