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Old Oct 24, 2022 | 06:58 AM
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I am driving along in the ’62 and as soon as I hit about 30 mph the speedometer goes crazy, starts making a loud grinding sound, and the needle starts jumping back and forth from 30 mph to 160 mph. I slow down to about 10 mph and the noise goes away and the needle returns to normal, speed up to about 25-30 and the noise and needle jump returns. I disconnect the speedo cable and finish the trip. Back home in the shop I hook up a drill to the speedo cable and get the same problem over an indicated 25 mph.Looks like I am going to have to remove the speedometer and get it repaired.
Any recommendations on a repair shop?
I used Corvette Specialties of Maryland about 15 years ago and was pleased with their work. I looked on the internet and found Corvette Specialties of MD West located in CA. Anyone know if this is the same company?
Is there such a thing as a repair manual or instructions on speedometer repair?

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Before you do that try greasing the heck out of the cable
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Before you do that try greasing the heck out of the cable
I lubed the cable about 5 months ago. When this problem occurred I pulled the cable and it was well lubricated, but I applied more lube, replaced the cable and the problem was still there.
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I lubed the cable about 5 months ago. When this problem occurred I pulled the cable and it was well lubricated, but I applied more lube, replaced the cable and the problem was still there.
How is the drive gear in the trans? Always better to check the easy stuff first.
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Old Oct 24, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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make sure you have no hard 90 degree kinks in the cable also.
mine did that... it was a '70 so your's may be different.. but eventually the speedo drive gear ( not the plastic driven gear) in the tailshaft of the tranny had to be replaced.. it was plastic, I put in a metal one.. problem solved.
but replace the plastic driven gear at the cable connection as a 1st try....


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you can get a metal one, talk to paul from 5speeds.com , he's a genius.


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Thanks for the suggestions, BUT I am not using a transmission drive gear. The speedo cable is driven by a Cable-X unit which converts the transmission electronic VSS signal to mechanical.
I checked the Corvette Specialties of MD West website and to repair the old speedometer is probably going to cost $350-&450. I have converted a C1 mechanical tachometer to electric so another thought - does anyone know if the mechanical speedo can be converted to electronic? I don't think converting the speedo part would be too difficult, but the odometer part might be a problem.
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Your speedometer acts like there is something amiss in the unit itself. There is no physical connection between the needle and the cable. It's just a spinning magnet in a metal cup. The magnetism turns the cup/needle. Sounds like the magnet is in contact with the cup, or some debris has entered the area making a physical connection between the magnet and cup.

That particular area has not changed in a Corvette/chevrolet speedometer since 194x. The odometer gear (part of the magnet assembly) stripped on mine. After two Chinese speedometers and both failed, I decided to repair my original.

I'm currently using a magnet/shaft assembly from a 1947 chevy pickup speedometer, same as my 1970. A speedometer is not difficult to repair. Most don't want to go there.

You first need to determine where yours has failed. If you did want to attempt a repair yourself, I can assist if you wish.

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Nice Pic, Where does one get these parts?
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Originally Posted by Barry's70LT1
Your speedometer acts like there is something amiss in the unit itself. There is no physical connection between the needle and the cable. It's just a spinning magnet in a metal cup. The magnetism turns the cup/needle. Sounds like the magnet is in contact with the cup, or some debris has entered the area making a physical connection between the magnet and cup.

That particular area has not changed in a Corvette/chevrolet speedometer since 194x. The odometer gear (part of the magnet assembly) stripped on mine. After two Chinese speedometers and both failed, I decided to repair my original.
I'm currently using a magnet/shaft assembly from a 1947 chevy pickup speedometer, same as my 1970. A speedometer is not difficult to repair. Most don't want to go there.
You first need to determine where yours has failed. If you did want to attempt a repair yourself, I can assist if you wish.
Barry
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I will not be able to remove the speedometer for several weeks, so I may contact you then.
Charles
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Originally Posted by cbernhardt
I am driving along in the ’62 and as soon as I hit about 30 mph the speedometer goes crazy, starts making a loud grinding sound, and the needle starts jumping back and forth from 30 mph to 160 mph. I slow down to about 10 mph and the noise goes away and the needle returns to normal, speed up to about 25-30 and the noise and needle jump returns. I disconnect the speedo cable and finish the trip. Back home in the shop I hook up a drill to the speedo cable and get the same problem over an indicated 25 mph.Looks like I am going to have to remove the speedometer and get it repaired.
Any recommendations on a repair shop?
I used Corvette Specialties of Maryland about 15 years ago and was pleased with their work. I looked on the internet and found Corvette Specialties of MD West located in CA. Anyone know if this is the same company?
Is there such a thing as a repair manual or instructions on speedometer repair?

Thanks,
Charles
Yes Brian Tilles company..i used them for my 58 and 59.
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I have the guts from a 58-62 speedometer. Don't know if it works, but I can try to connect a drill motor and test if you are interested.

Charles
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Originally Posted by joewill
Nice Pic, Where does one get these parts?
Kind of a general question without a single answer.

I attached another photo from someone else. Most of the parts are not available. "B" is available, "A" (input shaft and magnet - cannot find any supplier)
The rest of the items 1 thru 6 don't seem to be able to be sourced, and don't seem to wear out often.

In my case, "A" & "B" had worn out gears. I replaced "A" from a doner speedometer, 1947 chevy pickup.


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cbernhardt,
I have the guts from a 58-62 speedometer. Don't know if it works, but I can try to connect a drill motor and test if you are interested.
Charles
Try it out and let me know.
Charles

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Try it out and let me know.
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Will do.
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Mine did that for a while after I put the car on the road. I found out the cable end was too long going into the speedo head. It was going in too deep. Might be worth a look.
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I sent my speedo/tach for my C2 to Joe Ray in Little Rock and he did a great job. I don’t know if he does C1’s but would think he could. Sorry, don’t have his contact info but you can do a search.
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Originally Posted by Pop Chevy
Mine did that for a while after I put the car on the road. I found out the cable end was too long going into the speedo head. It was going in too deep. Might be worth a look.
The speedometer has been working properly for over 20 years and 50,000 miles, so I don't think that is the problem, but I will check it after I get it out.
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I had the same issue---what I discovered is that when it makes that kind of noise it needs to be repaired. Greaing wont do it.
I used the one you found---he was from MD but relocated to CA. His service is first class.
You buy a rebuilt one from him--off the shelf. he sends it to you free shipping and also includes a shipping label.
You use that label to send him your old unit which he will rebuild and re-sell BUT he BUYS it from you----and sends you a check. Think he gave me 150.00 for my old one.
With his system you get the new speedo within days as opposed to waiting weeks to have yours rebuilt.
I was extremely happy with the way it worked as well as the result.
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