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I have a 60 with a NOM the generator bracket is bolted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side. Has anyone seen this before? I want to run a alternator, but I can't find a bracket. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
I have a 60 with a NOM the generator bracket is bolted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side. Has anyone seen this before? I want to run a alternator, but I can't find a bracket. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
That's how it was done from the factory. It's not unusual.
As to alternator brackets, I bet everything would fit and work if you just bought the bracketry and pulleys for, say, a '63 or '64 Sting Ray. I've never tried that, but that's how I would approach it.
When I got it, my car had an alternator mounted to the right (passenger) side manifold. Here is the bracket--this looks purpose built, not homemade, but not sure where it came from:
Corvette Central sells a somewhat different one--this may work as well:
And you could always get a different size belt so I wouldn't let that limit you.
I've seen this many times now, including my neighbors '70 Cougar. It looks like a barracuda was chewing on his alternator bracket. I'd try to match up the belt and pulleys (looking from the side) and go from there.
When I got it, my car had an alternator mounted to the right (passenger) side manifold. Here is the bracket--this looks purpose built, not homemade, but not sure where it came from:
Corvette Central sells a somewhat different one--this may work as well:
What size of alternator did you have on this bracket. I tried to install a 10SI in my 1959 and could not for the life of me get it low enough to allow the hood to close.
What size of alternator did you have on this bracket. I tried to install a 10SI in my 1959 and could not for the life of me get it low enough to allow the hood to close.
Go for a Kubota 40 amp alternator (it has built in regulator). It was small enough to stuff inside a Delco generator. Front of alt painted black Back of alt in gen housing In place
Go for a Kubota 40 amp alternator (it has built in regulator). It was small enough to stuff inside a Delco generator. Front of alt painted black Back of alt in gen housing In place
That is genius. I wonder if there are any heat build up issues? I had the same problem as Truenorthfree and had to play with my installation adjusted correctly, but it worked out. Like most things with C-1's, one size seldom fits all.
That is genius. I wonder if there are any heat build up issues? I had the same problem as Truenorthfree and had to play with my installation adjusted correctly, but it worked out. Like most things with C-1's, one size seldom fits all.
That alternator has its own internal built in fan. It sucks in air through the back and blows it out the front. The Delco gen fan blades on the front are actually stationary and the pulley just passes through them. The back side has a visible sawed off generator commutator glued in place and fools everyone. This alternator was cheap even new on Ebay and puts out more than an original generator. Point is that it is even way smaller than the Geo Metro alternator on my experimental aircraft. Fake armature
Last edited by JF in MI; Dec 10, 2022 at 09:15 AM.
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That alternator has its own internal built in fan. It sucks in air through the back and blows it out the front. The Delco gen fan blades on the front are actually stationary and the pulley just passes through them. The back side has a visible sawed off generator commutator glued in place and fools everyone. This alternator was cheap even new on Ebay and puts out more than an original generator. Point is that it is even way smaller than the Geo Metro alternator on my experimental aircraft.
Fake armature
Slick, very slick.you must have access to a lot of good machinery or can do wonders with hand tools..
You should start a thread on this would love to see how that all came about..
Chalie
I am not sure if this is the same alternator that JF used, but below is a picture of the alternator that I have on my '59. It is small, the body is about 4" in diameter, about 6" between mounting bolt holes, and about 6" in depth. I bought it from a local hotrod shop. There are no markings on the body to indicate the manufacturer, but I was at a car show a few years ago and saw one just like mine, except it was not chrome plated. The owner said it was from a Toyota forklift.
I am not sure if this is the same alternator that JF used, but below is a picture of the alternator that I have on my '59. It is small, the body is about 4" in diameter, about 6" between mounting bolt holes, and about 6" in depth. I bought it from a local hotrod shop. There are no markings on the body to indicate the manufacturer, but I was at a car show a few years ago and saw one just like mine, except it was not chrome plated. The owner said it was from a Toyota forklift.
What I did to it was move the alt output post to the back and mill off all the mounting tangs and trim the alt joint mating edges. I milled out slots in the generator housing so it would slip inside. And yes I have my own hobby machine shop.
Ok so I have a really stupid follow up question for you on this internal mount.
Did you trim the traditional mounting tabs off the Kubota Alt. while whole or did you tear it apart to machine it down?
Thanks,
Ken
Ok so I have a really stupid follow up question for you on this internal mount.
Did you trim the traditional mounting tabs off the Kubota Alt. while whole or did you tear it apart to machine it down?
Thanks,
Ken
#1; I don't see it as a stupid question. Asking is the only way to learn. #2; I took it apart. Real easy. The picture above shows the front half (IIRC) of the alternator before machining. Afterward the whole thing stuffed into the gen housing without any other brackets holding it in. What you can't see (and neither can anyone else after it was installed) is a big 1" slice out of the entire gen housing, on the underside, to help (once again IIRC because it was about 6 years ago) to help clear the corner of the internal alt voltage regulator housing. Except for the internal grooves, cut for clearance on the inside of the gen housing, most could be done with a hacksaw and files albeit lots of labor.
What size of alternator did you have on this bracket. I tried to install a 10SI in my 1959 and could not for the life of me get it low enough to allow the hood to close.
I don't remember, and I don't have the alternator anymore. It looked like a pretty standard GM alternator though.
Alright I have an update on my trying to fit the 10SI alternator into my 1959.
Had a brainy idea, or at least I like to think I did.
I made a bracket out of 1.5 inch angle iron that dropped the whole unit down to fit below the hood.
The key to making it work was 1) using flush mount fasteners (you need to counter sink the steel) for the bolts to the manifold 2) shimming the alternator mounting bracket up by 1/4 of and inch to allow for better movement when fitting the belt.
Got it all together yesterday and it worked like a charm as I took it out on the road today.
The alternator puts out great amperage and has not problems with all the electronics running at once and the headlights do not dim while idling.
Many thanks to all the input on this from the folks on the forum.
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