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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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How can I determine (prior to a judging event) if this shifter pattern is original or a repro? Anyone out there have a KNOWN original shift pattern they'd be willing to sell me?



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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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Brian here is a picture of the 66 console I re did showing the shifter plate.



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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 10:53 AM
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My best guess is aftermarket. The originals were embossed much deeper than what I see, but photos can be deceiving.
This one is original.

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I seem to recall reading somewhere that with original shift pattern plates gradually thinned closer to the edge with a smooth round radius, whereas more current repops have a sharp 90 degree break. Of course I can't find this information right now so maybe I'm just imagining this??? Does anyone out there remember this description???
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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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My best guess is aftermarket. The originals were embossed much deeper than what I see, but photos can be deceiving.
pop23235, on page 39 of the current NCRS judging guide it states: "The shift pattern is de-bossed and silk screened in black on a small brushed aluminum plate..."

You hit the nail on the head because none of the lines or numbers (in the shift pattern I'm holding in my hand) are de-bossed. So, I guess with that bit of info I'm now going to start looking for an original shift pattern plate. Since I am sooo late to the party I'm sure they've all been snatched up by now but if anyone has one please let me know. Thanks.
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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 11:09 AM
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Brian you're going to have to buy a whole console to get one. They where never available over the counter
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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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Brian you're going to have to buy a whole console to get one. They where never available over the counter
Hahaha, well, I'm definitely NOT going to buy a whole console and surely there's someone out there that has one. Time to post another WTB ad.
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What a huge problem for the judging world.
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What a huge problem for the judging world.
Supporting the economy one part at a time. hahaha
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Originally Posted by pop23235
My best guess is aftermarket. The originals were embossed much deeper than what I see, but photos can be deceiving.
This one is original.

Pop is right on the money, I must of spent months researching this shift/plaque when I was restoring my console (after I ruined my original during a bubba moment at removal of it:-)..,
I thought it would be a no brainer to find a NOS one, fat chance it’s something I found out only for the 63 model was available in NOS…. I posted some pics years ago on the Forum of repros vs. O.E.
- GOOD NEWS .. so I thought at that time a forum member reached out to me & was very familiar with the process that was used it the making of them & was sure he could duplicate it, he was showing me results of his acid etching process & aluminum blanks (his term) that he was in the middle of making, I offer to buy some & also for his time/materials when he was done his work looked great, but he wasn’t 100%happy with his results he was also making decal’s which were incredible…

I hope he’s O.K. We corresponded with e-mails such very nice individual.. I hope maybe he see’s this post he was so close to duplicating the 4spd. 64-67 shift pattern badges/plaques.. would still love to have one
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Just in case anyone is looking for my want to buy ad, I've posted it here, here, and here.
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I have one of my 67, but really no idea of originality. The rest of the interior seems pretty original, no signs of a restoration, and the previous owner had the car since the mid-80s….

the main surround was scratched, so I bought and installed a “ kit”…

the new set is definitely deeper inset than the one I pulled off…. Can’t really catch my fingernail, but definitely recessed where the black paint goes. Edges are slightly rolled.





but mine does appear to have thin, double-sided tape.
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That looks original to me.
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Tony,
The 4-speed plaque you're holding...is that the replacement plaque. If so, where did you acquire it?
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Originally Posted by L78
I have one of my 67, but really no idea of originality. The rest of the interior seems pretty original, no signs of a restoration, and the previous owner had the car since the mid-80s….

the main surround was scratched, so I bought and installed a “ kit”… the new set is definitely deeper inset than the one I pulled off…. Can’t really catch my fingernail, but definitely recessed where the black paint goes. Edges are slightly rolled.



but mine does appear to have thin, double-sided tape.




Originally Posted by leif.anderson93
Tony, the 4-speed plaque you're holding...is that the replacement plaque. If so, where did you acquire it?




Leif, I'm guessing from L78's post, the plate he's holding is the plate he removed from his shifter console when he replace it with the kit he purchased??? Is this presumption correct L78?

Thanks guys for your help on this.
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You can take 600 paper on glass and bring it back to near new. Depends on how deep the gouges. Sand only in one direction. Use a fence on glass .
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I am glad the OP doesn't own a 3-speed..........
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Originally Posted by CADbrian
Leif, I'm guessing from L78's post, the plate he's holding is the plate he removed from his shifter console when he replace it with the kit he purchased??? Is this presumption correct L78?

Thanks guys for your help on this.
yes,

this is the plate I removed when I restored my console….


original on the right



“ original” covering the installed repro


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Tony,

Great pictures of the side by side comparison. Thanks very much for posting. Now an excellent reference picture for the rest of us to use. C.J.
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It would seem that some of the 5 spd tranny replacement guys might have an original to sell since they'll never go back to a Muncie.
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