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Old Aug 30, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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I see the data plate under dash by the vin plate and notice that it doesn’t really contain options like the plate on a Camaro. Is all the options the car came with somewhere else?
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No, the trim tag is all there is for mid-year Corvettes.
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well, if it's a St louis' body and not black interior there will be ECL codes that will tell you the interior options or lack of options. even the Fisher body tags for Camaros and Chevelles don't tell you a whole lot
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How do you tell then what engine, trim options the car came with?
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Where things are mounted gives a lot of clues. Where the battery is, where the hood prop is...I was told early on that these cars are some of the most mis-represented out there. My 66 has a 350 masquerading as a 327, but I knew that right up front. Thank God!

Post some Photos of the trim tag and the car, even under the hood. many people here know so much about thee cars you'll be shocked. I knew almost every in and out of one vintage car I used to own. That's nothing compared to many members here and midyear Corvettes.
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Originally Posted by Tonysanto
How do you tell then what engine, trim options the car came with?

clues that can be added or removed over the years. if it was restored correctly all the clues will be erased. first post a picture of the trim tag. but just like Camaros the POP and other real GM paperwork is king
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Wow this definitely got really complicated, I’ll have to get every car I’m interested in inspected. Is it safe to say that a car that has NCRS certification is good?
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Originally Posted by Tonysanto
Wow this definitely got really complicated, I’ll have to get every car I’m interested in inspected. Is it safe to say that a car that has NCRS certification is good?
depends how recent the NCRS award is and if the owner left all the good ginger bread items on the car after judging.
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Originally Posted by Tonysanto
How do you tell then what engine, trim options the car came with?
No records are available anywhere showing options or what combinations were built with any particular car. Without the original paperwork, nothing is certain. And the original paperwork isn’t even certain. 67’s came with a tank sticker mounted on top of the gas tank with all the options listed. The odds that it would still be there or readable are pretty slim. No other year C2’s had them.
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Originally Posted by Tonysanto
Wow this definitely got really complicated, I’ll have to get every car I’m interested in inspected. Is it safe to say that a car that has NCRS certification is good?
Nope. NCRS and Bloomington Gold judge based on a standard to how a car left the factory. They do not claim anything to be original. Judges are good at finding irregularities though. It is said that of the 3,754 427/435 1967 Corvettes originally built 9,386 exist today. Many of those have "Original" documentation and certifications.
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Again WOW!
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Again WOW!
people have been throwing those numbers for decades. No one can prove or disprove them either. I believe attrition rate is up there with the amount of fakes out there. There was only so many parts made to start with
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people have been throwing those numbers for decades. No one can prove or disprove them either. I believe attrition rate is up there with the amount of fakes out there. There was only so many parts made to start with
A little hyperbole to make a point... but in my experience there are many more 427 cars running around today than were originally produced. There are much fewer St. Louis small block cars today then there should be... 4,293 green cars and 815 black cars were produced in '67 and now it seems like those numbers are reversed. No real world evidence. Just my personal observations.

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@Tonysanto What year is your car? Coupe or convertible?
The last digits of the VIN # are stamped on many parts. Ex. Engine, Trans, top of the frame rail under the body.
Dates are also stamped on many parts. Trim tag, bottom edge of the rear diff, inside of the door panel and under the dash for a few examples. All the engine parts will have cast dates; block, heads, water pump, alternator, expansion tank, etc.
The puzzle is collecting them all and seeing if they line up within reasonable time frames. Here is a link to an article that will open up your world that I used to document my car..

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