[C2] Getting my '64 Roadster back on the road
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Getting my '64 Roadster back on the road
Hey everyone, just wanted to introduce myself and start a thread for my C2. My name is Brent, I live in N.E. Oklahoma with my wife of 25 years. We have 2 boys (21 and 23). One is in college and the other married and living in KC.
As a kid, I grew up in a Corvette family. Spent many weekends at car shows, auto cross events and drag races. Over the years, my dad owned many C3s and C4s and I am sure there were some I never knew about. Not sure why he never ventured into the newer stuff, but I do know his hobbies shifted to other things in retirement. Out of those that he owned, this one was his first and he never let go of it (except for that one time it was stolen from him). He bought it in 1970 for about $3k, as I recall. It went through a body on restoration of the exterior and interior in the early 80s. He restored the engine compartment in the 90s. And rebuilt the engine around 2000.
When my dad passed in the Spring of '21, I inherited this '64 and a '93 polo green convertible. This finally gave me the push to build a detached shop at my place...something I had started planning for about 10 years before. I drove the '93 quite a bit for those 2+ years, fixing a few things along the way, but decided to sell it. It didn't have the sentimental value and I already had a toy/project of my own. I couldn't justify three toys plus a daily driver and a spare truck.
I originally told myself I would not start on the '64 until my other project car was finished. But I can't stand it anymore, which means I'll have two going at the same time. It hasn't run for at least 8 years. The driver's side wheel is locked up, which made transporting to my place interesting. The master cylinder is bone dry, so I suspect the wheel cylinder was leaking on that corner. My goals are to; 1) go through all the systems that would need attention after sitting for this long, 2) get it running/driving, 3) enjoy getting it out on nice days/evenings, and 4) continue to keep the car as original as possible in the process, as my dad did.
My plan is to do the following:
Here are some pics...
As a kid, I grew up in a Corvette family. Spent many weekends at car shows, auto cross events and drag races. Over the years, my dad owned many C3s and C4s and I am sure there were some I never knew about. Not sure why he never ventured into the newer stuff, but I do know his hobbies shifted to other things in retirement. Out of those that he owned, this one was his first and he never let go of it (except for that one time it was stolen from him). He bought it in 1970 for about $3k, as I recall. It went through a body on restoration of the exterior and interior in the early 80s. He restored the engine compartment in the 90s. And rebuilt the engine around 2000.
When my dad passed in the Spring of '21, I inherited this '64 and a '93 polo green convertible. This finally gave me the push to build a detached shop at my place...something I had started planning for about 10 years before. I drove the '93 quite a bit for those 2+ years, fixing a few things along the way, but decided to sell it. It didn't have the sentimental value and I already had a toy/project of my own. I couldn't justify three toys plus a daily driver and a spare truck.
I originally told myself I would not start on the '64 until my other project car was finished. But I can't stand it anymore, which means I'll have two going at the same time. It hasn't run for at least 8 years. The driver's side wheel is locked up, which made transporting to my place interesting. The master cylinder is bone dry, so I suspect the wheel cylinder was leaking on that corner. My goals are to; 1) go through all the systems that would need attention after sitting for this long, 2) get it running/driving, 3) enjoy getting it out on nice days/evenings, and 4) continue to keep the car as original as possible in the process, as my dad did.
My plan is to do the following:
- Fuel System: Empty the tank, blow out the lines, replace the fuel filter and have the carb rebuilt
- Brakes: Rebuild wheel cylinders (if they are original), replace the shoes, inspect the drums to see if they are useable (have them turned)
- Replace the battery
- Drain/refill the coolant
- Replace the thermostat
Here are some pics...
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Great story and beautiful car! '64s are the best years 😊 Your plan sounds good to me. I'd suggest replacing all the rubber brake hoses and fuel lines. Back at the tank where the fuel line goes through the frame, there is a short rubber hose, be sure to get that one as it is easy to overlook. Replace your tires as well. Even if they look good, they are likely past their life and need replacing. A stock suspension C2 with good rubber bushings will ride great and handle very well. Add some good traction tires and you'll be very happy with the twisty road performance.
Keep us posted on your progress! These are super fun cars to work on and drive. Enjoy it
Keep us posted on your progress! These are super fun cars to work on and drive. Enjoy it
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Pleased to see you want to keep it original. Best way to maintain value, and when you have her in top notch mechanical order she will do all you need her to do. She has a very tidy, unmolested look now, which tells me your dad was careful to avoid customization. You will be the beneficiary of that now.. Love the Red/White interior.. Classy
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Great story and beautiful car! '64s are the best years 😊 Your plan sounds good to me. I'd suggest replacing all the rubber brake hoses and fuel lines. Back at the tank where the fuel line goes through the frame, there is a short rubber hose, be sure to get that one as it is easy to overlook. Replace your tires as well. Even if they look good, they are likely past their life and need replacing. A stock suspension C2 with good rubber bushings will ride great and handle very well. Add some good traction tires and you'll be very happy with the twisty road performance.
Keep us posted on your progress! These are super fun cars to work on and drive. Enjoy it
Keep us posted on your progress! These are super fun cars to work on and drive. Enjoy it
Pleased to see you want to keep it original. Best way to maintain value, and when you have her in top notch mechanical order she will do all you need her to do. She has a very tidy, unmolested look now, which tells me your dad was careful to avoid customization. You will be the beneficiary of that now.. Love the Red/White interior.. Classy
After I drained the gas tank last night, I took a look and saw this. I have not inspected any other 60 year old gas tanks, so I don't have anything to compare it to. The float on the sending unit was stiff, but a small nudge with a wooden stick got it to move and it seems to be moving freely now. Should I be looking to replace the tank or one of those POR15 restoration kits or leave it be?
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How can a person go wrong with that color combo? She's a mighty fine looking automobile.
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Personally, I wouldn't start that car until I had that gas tank sorted out. I'd either re-seal or just purchase a new tank complete with the fuel sender. There's no since in subjecting your carb to all of that rust.
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Beautiful car that looks complete. That tank looks doubtful. If you replace it, I would go with a Quanta tank. They are correct in every way. The sender looks to have seen better days. A quick way to check the sender is to put a battery in the car and turn the key to on. Don't crank the starter. Use a coat hanger to nudge the float on the tank to see if the fuel gauge moves. If it does, you are in luck. On your list of items to buy, include a filer/sock for the sender as well as a float. You will also need an O-ring for the tank sender. The Quanta tank may have one. If the car has been sitting a very long time, consider rebuilding the fuel pump as the diaphragm may be dried out and shot. Good luck with the rebuild. Keep the pictures coming. Jerry
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Beautiful car that looks complete. That tank looks doubtful. If you replace it, I would go with a Quanta tank. They are correct in every way. The sender looks to have seen better days. A quick way to check the sender is to put a battery in the car and turn the key to on. Don't crank the starter. Use a coat hanger to nudge the float on the tank to see if the fuel gauge moves. If it does, you are in luck. On your list of items to buy, include a filer/sock for the sender as well as a float. You will also need an O-ring for the tank sender. The Quanta tank may have one. If the car has been sitting a very long time, consider rebuilding the fuel pump as the diaphragm may be dried out and shot. Good luck with the rebuild. Keep the pictures coming. Jerry
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Welcome, and you have a great start on your project. It's gorgeous already.
Be aware that on a car this age, wiring insulation sometimes deteriorates. Not saying you should rush right out and replace everything, but always keep an eye on wiring as you poke around, and if you DO encounter an electrical problem, be suspicious there could be more. That thing is red enough, you don't need to burn it up.
Good luck and keep us posted. Before retirement I sometimes used to pass not far from you on my way out to Clinton to work, I grew to like the beauty of your state.
Be aware that on a car this age, wiring insulation sometimes deteriorates. Not saying you should rush right out and replace everything, but always keep an eye on wiring as you poke around, and if you DO encounter an electrical problem, be suspicious there could be more. That thing is red enough, you don't need to burn it up.
Good luck and keep us posted. Before retirement I sometimes used to pass not far from you on my way out to Clinton to work, I grew to like the beauty of your state.
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When you drain the coolant remove the two 1/4" pipe block plugs, you will be surprised how much coolant comes out. Most of the time I have to punch through the crud to get the coolant out. One time I did a 64 and there where no pipe plugs in the block! The crud is all that kept the coolant from leaking.
As far as parts, most non-specific Cortette parts can be sourced from your local parts store, eg.
NAPA.
As far as parts, most non-specific Cortette parts can be sourced from your local parts store, eg.
NAPA.
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Welcome, and you have a great start on your project. It's gorgeous already.
Be aware that on a car this age, wiring insulation sometimes deteriorates. Not saying you should rush right out and replace everything, but always keep an eye on wiring as you poke around, and if you DO encounter an electrical problem, be suspicious there could be more. That thing is red enough, you don't need to burn it up.
Good luck and keep us posted. Before retirement I sometimes used to pass not far from you on my way out to Clinton to work, I grew to like the beauty of your state.
Be aware that on a car this age, wiring insulation sometimes deteriorates. Not saying you should rush right out and replace everything, but always keep an eye on wiring as you poke around, and if you DO encounter an electrical problem, be suspicious there could be more. That thing is red enough, you don't need to burn it up.
Good luck and keep us posted. Before retirement I sometimes used to pass not far from you on my way out to Clinton to work, I grew to like the beauty of your state.
When you drain the coolant remove the two 1/4" pipe block plugs, you will be surprised how much coolant comes out. Most of the time I have to punch through the crud to get the coolant out. One time I did a 64 and there where no pipe plugs in the block! The crud is all that kept the coolant from leaking.
As far as parts, most non-specific Cortette parts can be sourced from your local parts store, eg.
NAPA.
As far as parts, most non-specific Cortette parts can be sourced from your local parts store, eg.
NAPA.
Just placed a good sized order with Zip for most everything I think I need for the brakes and gas tank. Went ahead and got that tank from them since they have free shipping right now and the extra 10% discount.
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Love the car, I have a couple of 64s. You might want to replace the various gaskets that are part of the fuel system (such as the fuel pump). I fthey are original or nearly so the ethanol in a lot of modern gas will dissolve them and you'll get leaking gas (ask me how I know). I'm still not convinced that "ethanol-free" gasoline really is at all pumps!
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When you drain and flush the block be sure to flush the heater core but be careful, they are only designed to hold 15 pounds of pressure, a garden hose may have 60 psi and can blow one out that was in good condition.
Call me silly but if that tank was holding fuel perfectly without leaking I think I would install an in line fuel filter to catch any particles and fill it up and run it. I just drained a 1955, the old gas had been sitting for many years, came out clean, old and not useable but it flowed out clean so the tank is still in use. There will always be some dirt in the bottom of an old gas tank. Rust flakes I would worry about, but a little dirt is normal. You can't put gas in a car 1,000 times and not introduce some dirt to the tank.
You car and color combo are beautiful. Great Car and great story.
Mark
Call me silly but if that tank was holding fuel perfectly without leaking I think I would install an in line fuel filter to catch any particles and fill it up and run it. I just drained a 1955, the old gas had been sitting for many years, came out clean, old and not useable but it flowed out clean so the tank is still in use. There will always be some dirt in the bottom of an old gas tank. Rust flakes I would worry about, but a little dirt is normal. You can't put gas in a car 1,000 times and not introduce some dirt to the tank.
You car and color combo are beautiful. Great Car and great story.
Mark
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Zip and Corvette Central are both good vendors. Though it should be noted that they are actually owned by the same company now, but, that doesn't detract from the parts they provide. I also use Summit for non-corvette specific parts. A local NAPA could be good as well.
Sounds like you are off to a good start! Keep us posted.
Sounds like you are off to a good start! Keep us posted.
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Love the car, I have a couple of 64s. You might want to replace the various gaskets that are part of the fuel system (such as the fuel pump). I fthey are original or nearly so the ethanol in a lot of modern gas will dissolve them and you'll get leaking gas (ask me how I know). I'm still not convinced that "ethanol-free" gasoline really is at all pumps!
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When you drain and flush the block be sure to flush the heater core but be careful, they are only designed to hold 15 pounds of pressure, a garden hose may have 60 psi and can blow one out that was in good condition.
Call me silly but if that tank was holding fuel perfectly without leaking I think I would install an in line fuel filter to catch any particles and fill it up and run it. I just drained a 1955, the old gas had been sitting for many years, came out clean, old and not useable but it flowed out clean so the tank is still in use. There will always be some dirt in the bottom of an old gas tank. Rust flakes I would worry about, but a little dirt is normal. You can't put gas in a car 1,000 times and not introduce some dirt to the tank.
You car and color combo are beautiful. Great Car and great story.
Mark
Call me silly but if that tank was holding fuel perfectly without leaking I think I would install an in line fuel filter to catch any particles and fill it up and run it. I just drained a 1955, the old gas had been sitting for many years, came out clean, old and not useable but it flowed out clean so the tank is still in use. There will always be some dirt in the bottom of an old gas tank. Rust flakes I would worry about, but a little dirt is normal. You can't put gas in a car 1,000 times and not introduce some dirt to the tank.
You car and color combo are beautiful. Great Car and great story.
Mark
Zip and Corvette Central are both good vendors. Though it should be noted that they are actually owned by the same company now, but, that doesn't detract from the parts they provide. I also use Summit for non-corvette specific parts. A local NAPA could be good as well.
Sounds like you are off to a good start! Keep us posted.
Sounds like you are off to a good start! Keep us posted.
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Yes that is the date code of the tires. I am not sure how to read it but they might be from 2007. That would explain why the whitewalls have stayed so white. The whitewall process has changed and now they become brown walls. Your car is beautiful.
Jay
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