C1 windshield?
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Racer
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From: Hoover AL
C1 windshield?
I just had my windshield replaced and they broke the fastener off the end frame. Can this be replaced? I saw something in Zip catalog about a repair. Is this the only choice??? :cry
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From: Gold Coast Queensland Australia
Re: C1 windshield? (aupaul)
This is a common problem and the most positive comments I have heard have come from forum members that have used the Corvette Central repair.
I hope that you are going to get some compensation from the windshield fitters as they probably broke it due to lack of knowlege and research about these windshield frames, which is after all, why you took it to a so-called "professional" in the first place.
Good Luck, Mark.
I hope that you are going to get some compensation from the windshield fitters as they probably broke it due to lack of knowlege and research about these windshield frames, which is after all, why you took it to a so-called "professional" in the first place.
Good Luck, Mark.
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From: Beverly Hills/Pine Ridge Florida
Re: C1 windshield? (59er)
I had my 54 end posts repaired. They machine a "keystone" like pattern into the bottom of the post, then fit a steel (stainless?) metal plate which duplicates the broken metal tab. The metal plate is then screwed into the post.
When you get the post back, you just re-install it like normal. Don't remember the cost, as I had mine done years ago. Corvette Central did mine, as I recall. They did a nice job.....AND machining the post did not mess up the visible chrome. Chuck
When you get the post back, you just re-install it like normal. Don't remember the cost, as I had mine done years ago. Corvette Central did mine, as I recall. They did a nice job.....AND machining the post did not mess up the visible chrome. Chuck
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Racer
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From: Hoover AL
Re: C1 windshield? (Chuck Gongloff)
I said the Zip catalog in my first post but it is in fact Corvette
Central that I was thinking of.
The installer is my brother and he said it was allready broken
and there is in fact proof that someone long ago had guled it back
even more bad news the other side is the same way only still
held together by the glue.
There were no screws through the plate on either side.
My brother said the lower rail that holds the T bolts needs to be replaced .
Anyone know of a soruce :cry
Central that I was thinking of.
The installer is my brother and he said it was allready broken
and there is in fact proof that someone long ago had guled it back
even more bad news the other side is the same way only still
held together by the glue.
There were no screws through the plate on either side.
My brother said the lower rail that holds the T bolts needs to be replaced .
Anyone know of a soruce :cry
Melting Slicks
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From: Pleasant Grove AL
Re: C1 windshield? (aupaul)
Who did you have install the windshield? That's criminal. You need to send the side posts to Corvette Central to be repaired. Actually, the way they do it makes the ws installalation a little easier. When you get the parts back, give me a call if you don't want to do the work yourself. My shop is experienced at early ws replacement. :auto:
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Re: C1 windshield? (62fuelie)
I had an "old time" glass guy tell me this story years ago. It pertains to the tremendous number of broken WS posts on solid axle cars. As we all know, the correct way to replace the WS is to remove the frame, disassemble it, install the glass, and then reassemble it and install the entire windshield assembly back on the car.
The story from "old glass guy" goes as follows:
Back in the old days, shops used to "flat rate" windshield replacement. They would get paid for "X" number of hours of labor regardless of how long it took them.
They used to disassemble the upper top frame, then bend the WS posts back, cracking the tabs. That way, they could install the glass without removing the frame. They would slap the windshield in within a few minutes, get paid for "X" hours of labor, and shove the car out the door. :)
Anyone who has replaced a winshield correctly knows what a PIA it is to get to the WS post nuts, etc. Makes sense to me. Comments? Truth or "urban legend" ?? Chuck
The story from "old glass guy" goes as follows:
Back in the old days, shops used to "flat rate" windshield replacement. They would get paid for "X" number of hours of labor regardless of how long it took them.
They used to disassemble the upper top frame, then bend the WS posts back, cracking the tabs. That way, they could install the glass without removing the frame. They would slap the windshield in within a few minutes, get paid for "X" hours of labor, and shove the car out the door. :)
Anyone who has replaced a winshield correctly knows what a PIA it is to get to the WS post nuts, etc. Makes sense to me. Comments? Truth or "urban legend" ?? Chuck
Melting Slicks
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From: Pleasant Grove AL
Re: C1 windshield? (aupaul)
There is no repo available for the lower channel. What's wrong with the one you have. It can probably be repaired. If not, someone like Mary Jo Rhoner will have a good used one, but it may be pricey. :auto:
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Racer
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From: Hoover AL
Re: C1 windshield? (62fuelie)
I took it apart so that I could send the end frames to CC And I think the bottom rail is fine. I removed the WS from the car to take it to the shop so I think I will not have any trouble reinstalling it when the end rails are returned.
Thanks for the offer.... pAUl :yesnod:
Thanks for the offer.... pAUl :yesnod:
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From: Pleasant Grove AL
Re: C1 windshield? (aupaul)
There are real good instructions in the ST-12 manual for ws installation. They recommend the use of a lot of sealers which a lot of folks have stopped using. The gasket will seal the windshield under normal circumstances, and the sealers just make a mess. If you use sealers, try to limit them to the lower corners. Don't use silicon. Your car will leak a lot of other places before it leaks around the windshield. Be sure you use the correct number of shims on the rear corners to keep the frame level.
When reinstalling the windshield on the car, I use a bit of rope caulk on the T-bolts to help hold them in place while the frame assy is installed on the car. Otherwise, they tend to want to get cocked. I'm usually doing this job by myself, but if you can get a couple of pairs of extra hands to help it will grease the skids. :auto:
When reinstalling the windshield on the car, I use a bit of rope caulk on the T-bolts to help hold them in place while the frame assy is installed on the car. Otherwise, they tend to want to get cocked. I'm usually doing this job by myself, but if you can get a couple of pairs of extra hands to help it will grease the skids. :auto:
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From: Retired Suffolk County Police Dept NY South Carolina
Re: C1 windshield? (62fuelie)
I was just wondering if it would be helpful to borrow, rent or buy one of those suction cup things that window installers use. My Jeep front window had suction cup marks on it so they must use then at the factory.
