Another Newbie
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Racer
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From: newton IA
Another Newbie
Hi everyone:
I just got my first Vette. A 65 Roadster project. I could have waited untill I saved the 35k for one finnished but Id rather buy parts than put the money in the bank every month. Plus now I'm officialy a Vette owner. I love just looking at her in the garage. C2's are beautiful even in primer. Anyway here is my question. I have the Assy manual and tons of catalogs but I cant figure out the belt and pulley configuration. Im getting conflicting answers from everyone I talk to so I thought this would be a good place to hash it out. I have a matching # 327/350hp with power steering and no air. I've been told that it didnt come out of the factory with P/S because the L79 comes stocK with a 6 qt pan and power steering wouldn't fit. It has a 5 qt pan now but I need to buy the pulleys. If anyone has that setup in there car I would love to hear about it with part numbers and such. Thanks
I just got my first Vette. A 65 Roadster project. I could have waited untill I saved the 35k for one finnished but Id rather buy parts than put the money in the bank every month. Plus now I'm officialy a Vette owner. I love just looking at her in the garage. C2's are beautiful even in primer. Anyway here is my question. I have the Assy manual and tons of catalogs but I cant figure out the belt and pulley configuration. Im getting conflicting answers from everyone I talk to so I thought this would be a good place to hash it out. I have a matching # 327/350hp with power steering and no air. I've been told that it didnt come out of the factory with P/S because the L79 comes stocK with a 6 qt pan and power steering wouldn't fit. It has a 5 qt pan now but I need to buy the pulleys. If anyone has that setup in there car I would love to hear about it with part numbers and such. Thanks
Le Mans Master
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From: POTSDAM NY/Punta Gorda FL
I read this thread a couple of days ago and can't believe that you haven't got a response
First off Welcome
You might want to check the NCRS site, there was a disscussion recently on the same subject, the 5 qt plan I believe started in January of '65 if I remember from the disscusion there. Another thing to do is look at your Paragon Catalog if you have one, I believe they show the proper belt diagram there with there part number.
Welcome again,
Tom
First off Welcome
You might want to check the NCRS site, there was a disscussion recently on the same subject, the 5 qt plan I believe started in January of '65 if I remember from the disscusion there. Another thing to do is look at your Paragon Catalog if you have one, I believe they show the proper belt diagram there with there part number.
Welcome again,
Tom
Le Mans Master
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From: Central Florida
Welcome to the money pit....I found calling Long Island Corvette Suppliers helped me out. The diagrams are confusing, and LIC has a good idea on the belts.
GO to Carlisle, PA even if you don't drive your vette. Take a camera and you will see almost every example of Corvette. Take photos, ask questions, spend money....this is the Corvette Lifestyle
Good luck and you come to the right place for info.
GO to Carlisle, PA even if you don't drive your vette. Take a camera and you will see almost every example of Corvette. Take photos, ask questions, spend money....this is the Corvette Lifestyle
Good luck and you come to the right place for info.
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Originally Posted by EBVette
Welcome to the money pit. Take photos, ask questions, spend money....this is the Corvette Lifestyle
Good luck and you come to the right place for info.
Good luck and you come to the right place for info.
65RDSTR,
Welcome. I will look @ my Noland Adams book and reply later if I find an answer to your questions.
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Racer
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From: newton IA
Thanks for the help so far. Im finding that this option group is fairly rare (L79 w/ P/S) I dont assume it originally came that way but I will keep it anyway. So far I've talked to about 6 experts and recieved 6 different answers. It might come down to trial and error. I think im getting it narrowed down though.
Here is another question that I think will be easier. I have the holes and backing plate in the firewall where the upper bolts for the power boster go through. Does this mean my car had power brakes or did all cars come with those holes regardless?
Here is another question that I think will be easier. I have the holes and backing plate in the firewall where the upper bolts for the power boster go through. Does this mean my car had power brakes or did all cars come with those holes regardless?
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From: Yorba Linda ca
Welcome to the forum
I have an original 65 L79 with power steering. Heard they were rare as well...My 65 is apart in the garage in hopes of getting the car completed by it's 40th b-day (Jan 15th, 05)
It is my understanding that my L79 came from the factory with the 5 qt oil pan (a 6qt would not allow P/S due to clearance issues). As far as the potential for power brakes, mine does not have any sort of plate..only 4 studs coming out of the firewall with two being utiized for manual brakes.
I have an original 65 L79 with power steering. Heard they were rare as well...My 65 is apart in the garage in hopes of getting the car completed by it's 40th b-day (Jan 15th, 05)
It is my understanding that my L79 came from the factory with the 5 qt oil pan (a 6qt would not allow P/S due to clearance issues). As far as the potential for power brakes, mine does not have any sort of plate..only 4 studs coming out of the firewall with two being utiized for manual brakes.
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Racer
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L79 had the option for PS.
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
So your standard setup should be using three belts: the inner belt just over crank to water pump pulley....the middle one over crank, waterpump and generator (right hand mounted) and the outer one driving the P/S pump. You should have a 5qt oilpan (as is).
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
So your standard setup should be using three belts: the inner belt just over crank to water pump pulley....the middle one over crank, waterpump and generator (right hand mounted) and the outer one driving the P/S pump. You should have a 5qt oilpan (as is).
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From: Westport CT
Originally Posted by Mikey1
L79 had the option for PS.
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
So your standard setup should be using three belts: the inner belt just over crank to water pump pulley....the middle one over crank, waterpump and generator (right hand mounted) and the outer one driving the P/S pump. You should have a 5qt oilpan (as is).
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
So your standard setup should be using three belts: the inner belt just over crank to water pump pulley....the middle one over crank, waterpump and generator (right hand mounted) and the outer one driving the P/S pump. You should have a 5qt oilpan (as is).
http://www.licorvette.com/pdfcatalogfiles/cat22/59.PDF
welcome aboard from another 65 roadster guy, loving every minute of it, evern the frustrating parts give me some sort of sick pleasure when I fix 'em!
What color was - is the car going to be?
Team Owner
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From: Washington Michigan
Originally Posted by Mikey1
L79 had the option for PS.
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
The only options with no PS and A/C where the L76 327/365 and the Fuelie....that was due to the agressive cam used for the SHP engine which delivered its idle @800 rpm....
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From: Vancouver BC
Welcome to one the best informative Forums around. I myself have a 65 roadster with numbers matching L76. The power steering was probably added later and is a treat to drive. There is alot of technical help on this forum. Good luck.
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From: Snake handler
Originally Posted by 65RDSTR
Here is another question that I think will be easier. I have the holes and backing plate in the firewall where the upper bolts for the power boster go through. Does this mean my car had power brakes or did all cars come with those holes regardless?
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Racer
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From: newton IA
This site is great. I'll have to get that Noland adams Book and a LIC catalog. My car is 4 days younger than Roger's 65. It was born on Jan 19. My vin is 07360. There was a weekend in there so they are probably close. My trim tag says the car was Glen Green with black leather interior.
Im finding that master cylinders for a 65 W P/B are expensive and hard to find. I saw one on Ebay with a buy it now price of $1000.00. It looks like the one for a 67 will fit and its much cheeper. Are there any issues with putting that one in there other than originality?
Im finding that master cylinders for a 65 W P/B are expensive and hard to find. I saw one on Ebay with a buy it now price of $1000.00. It looks like the one for a 67 will fit and its much cheeper. Are there any issues with putting that one in there other than originality?
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Functionally, the '67 master cylinder (casting #5455509, stamped "DC" on the machined area at the front) should work fine (67's used exactly the same master cylinder for both manual and power brakes, the only year that was true). The only issue you may have to deal with is the booster-to-master cylinder pushrod; the '67 master cylinder has the "deep" hole in the rear piston, and I don't recall if the original '65-'66 power master cylinder had the "deep" hole or the "shallow" hole. 