LADY @ Windsor
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From: Newark DE
Originally Posted by mdz06vetter
paint - not asked to do a rub test or anything - the only comment is jambs TOO GLOSSY and full deduct - paint never a question before, as Chuck indicated!
is there any recourse to this? Since everyone seems to say that on a full deduct they are suppose to discuss with the lead judge and with you first before taking the deduction and they didn't do that, can you contact NCRS and complain and maybe even send them copies of your past judging sheets showing the paint was never an issue before? Perhaps they can give you those points back and still allow the TF?
You know BABY is not NCRS level and I don't go thru the judging shows with her so I'm inexperienced with this but maybe it's worth a shot to call NCRS regarding this matter. At most all you can lose is the cost of a phone call to find out. After all your time, effort, and expense on LADY it should be worth 5 mniutes and a phone call to find out anyway.
In either case, as I mentioned before, you know and everyone else knows what a beautiful car LADY is so just enjoy her as she was always meant to be enjoyed - by driving the hell out of her now!
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Melting Slicks
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From: Severn Maryland
St. Jude Donor '05-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Barry,
I really do appreciate all of your WAY TOO KIND comments and look forward to seeing you and BABY again!
Was really unloading in my initial post and when I look at all of the deductions, beyond the paint - there are a number of things that I need to address with Tony that he really should have caught and didn't - the little point here, point there also added up.
There are ways to "tone down" the shiny aspects of the door jambs, etc. and I will probably explore those this winter. the stamppad is what it is - ain't changing that. I will be at Carlisle buying everything that I can get my hands on to take care of the "little point deductions" and then next spring will see where I am at and if I really want to campaign LADY for NCRS again.
Since LADY is "1 of 199", I think she deserves another chance - but I am going to think long and hard about it and I will still drive her every chance I get no matter what. I believe wholeheartedly that Zora is smiling every time I fire LADY up and back her out of the garage and go for a quick spin!
I really do appreciate all of your WAY TOO KIND comments and look forward to seeing you and BABY again!
Was really unloading in my initial post and when I look at all of the deductions, beyond the paint - there are a number of things that I need to address with Tony that he really should have caught and didn't - the little point here, point there also added up.
There are ways to "tone down" the shiny aspects of the door jambs, etc. and I will probably explore those this winter. the stamppad is what it is - ain't changing that. I will be at Carlisle buying everything that I can get my hands on to take care of the "little point deductions" and then next spring will see where I am at and if I really want to campaign LADY for NCRS again.
Since LADY is "1 of 199", I think she deserves another chance - but I am going to think long and hard about it and I will still drive her every chance I get no matter what. I believe wholeheartedly that Zora is smiling every time I fire LADY up and back her out of the garage and go for a quick spin!
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From: POTSDAM NY/Punta Gorda FL
Rick,
I think you have the right idea with your last post, I hope to see you and the the car in Carlisle, I thought you were giving in a little easy for someone who has gone so far, also glad that you aren't going to be afraid to drive it.
Tom
I think you have the right idea with your last post, I hope to see you and the the car in Carlisle, I thought you were giving in a little easy for someone who has gone so far, also glad that you aren't going to be afraid to drive it.
Tom
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Melting Slicks
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From: Severn Maryland
St. Jude Donor '05-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Tom,
really look forward to putting a face to a name! you and I have exchanged a lot of email and posts since I went down the slippery slope of restoration with LADY.
really look forward to putting a face to a name! you and I have exchanged a lot of email and posts since I went down the slippery slope of restoration with LADY.
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From: Barrington IL
I totally agree that a restamp is fraud ONLY if for example a 300hp car is turned into a 435hp. I spoke with the 67 stamp pad judge and was told that about 80% of the big block 67s had restamped engines in them. If the car is represented as such and was for example a 435 car to begin with then it is not fraud but part of a restoration. Unforunately the car gets sold a couple of times then if someone is not honest will try to pass the car off as an original motored car. This is when the opinion of an expert is worth the added expense. I guess my point is if NCRS and Bloomington did not allow restamped motored cars to participate there would be very few cars to judge!
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Melting Slicks
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From: Severn Maryland
St. Jude Donor '05-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
IF (and that is a MIGHTY big word) when the individual car comes to Bloomington and NCRS shows the INDIVIDUAL announces UPFRONT this is a RESTAMPED block and not the original - then I will say judging should proceed - but then I should be judged the same as that individual in my situation - the BLOCK in either case IS NOT the original block.
Until ALL organizations address this issue I will continue to stand by what I have decided to do and will call ALL restamps COUNTERFEITS as that is what they are.
Until ALL organizations address this issue I will continue to stand by what I have decided to do and will call ALL restamps COUNTERFEITS as that is what they are.
