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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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The was another post recently on the Corvette clock for this generation, so I thought to myself, why not try and remove it and tinker around with to see if I can get it working again. So I remove the two side panels and the glove box, take a look at the back of the clock and surprisingly the power plug was unplugged from the prongs. All this time I thought the clock bit the dust and I would need to have it rebuilt. So I plug it in and sure enough, it starts working. So here is my question, I'm wondering if the reason it was unplugged is because of battery drain and if so, how much is the drain on the battery? I just changed the battery to a red top Optima and I only drive it every couple of weeks. It would be cool to have the clock movement again, but if it's going to shorten the battery life alot, I can get along without it and just keep wearing my wristwatch when I drive it. Thanks.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Install a battery cut off switch. You need one anyway as a safety device, especially if the car sits unattended for weeks at a time.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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You might want to scan the archives for this, but I believe I remember a thread where connecting the clock "backwards: ie positive wire to negative terminal & vice versa" would still allow the clock to work, but would also "energize" the clock frame, the console, and ultimately the heater core, causing a quick galvonic (sic?) type reaction which would cause the heater core to "corrode" thru in "no-time-flat"

As I remember the moral, make sure the clock is hooked up
correctly!

This did not happen to me, but from just reading along, the consequences seemed severe, if really true.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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I don't know where I saw it, but the problem went like this-
When the battery drains down from disuse the voltage can
drop to a point where the wind up solenoid can't move. There will still be enough current to fry the solenoid since the contacts stay closed. I don't know if this is true but it sounds possible.
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Originally Posted by bluestreak63
So here is my question, I'm wondering if the reason it was unplugged is because of battery drain and if so, how much is the drain on the battery? Thanks.
I unplugged the clock in my '64 when I stopped driving it on a regular basis (about 1971) to save the mechanical movement. Recently, I decided to put a quartz movement in it and put the good mechanical movement in storage for posterity.

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Originally Posted by NVaVettes
You might want to scan the archives for this, but I believe I remember a thread where connecting the clock "backwards: ie positive wire to negative terminal & vice versa" would still allow the clock to work, but would also "energize" the clock frame, the console, and ultimately the heater core, causing a quick galvonic (sic?) type reaction which would cause the heater core to "corrode" thru in "no-time-flat"

As I remember the moral, make sure the clock is hooked up
correctly!

This did not happen to me, but from just reading along, the consequences seemed severe, if really true.
It is true, unless someone decided to put a separate ground from the dash to the clock frame/support, that the negative side (-) electrical connector on the clock is what grounds the clock frame and the part of the dash the clock is mounted in -- that is why the dash lights for the clock stop working if you disconnect the clock connector even though the lights are still plugged in.
If the clock connector wires were reversed, I would expect the dash lights for the clock wouldn't work properly because they would have the positive side connected to both sides of the filament -- using the dash-light dimmer-**** might cause some interesting results for the clock lights....like the clock lights getting dimmer when the rest of the dash lights are getting brighter, etc.

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bluestreak63
The was another post recently on the Corvette clock for this generation, so I thought to myself, why not try and remove it and tinker around with to see if I can get it working again. So I remove the two side panels and the glove box, take a look at the back of the clock and surprisingly the power plug was unplugged from the prongs. All this time I thought the clock bit the dust and I would need to have it rebuilt. So I plug it in and sure enough, it starts working. So here is my question, I'm wondering if the reason it was unplugged is because of battery drain and if so, how much is the drain on the battery? I just changed the battery to a red top Optima and I only drive it every couple of weeks. It would be cool to have the clock movement again, but if it's going to shorten the battery life alot, I can get along without it and just keep wearing my wristwatch when I drive it. Thanks.
I had my clock rebuilt a few years ago by a company in the midwest that had some NOS original mechanicals available. The clock runs great and I do not disconnect the clock or battery even when I don't drive it in the winter. I never had a problem with battery drain. Last year I believe I had not started the car for Jan,Feb,March. Make sure you have a good battery. I would buy a five year battery especially since its a pain to change them in a midyear.
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Originally Posted by NVaVettes
You might want to scan the archives for this, but I believe I remember a thread where connecting the clock "backwards: ie positive wire to negative terminal & vice versa" would still allow the clock to work, but would also "energize" the clock frame, the console, and ultimately the heater core, causing a quick galvonic (sic?) type reaction which would cause the heater core to "corrode" thru in "no-time-flat"
Sounds like an "urban legend" to me - the clock is totally isolated electrically from its surroundings in the dash, all of which are non-conductive fiberglass, and the heater core is also totally isolated electrically from its surroundings in its fiberglass case.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Sounds like an "urban legend" to me - the clock is totally isolated electrically from its surroundings in the dash, all of which are non-conductive fiberglass, and the heater core is also totally isolated electrically from its surroundings in its fiberglass case.
I agree that it would be very unusual for the heater core not to be electrically isolated. I think most heater core problems are caused by not changing coolant frequently. So, I have no opinions on the heater core problem.

However, that been said, there is one thing that I did wonder about when I read this:
The clock is normally isolated electrically when the clock connector and the clock lights are not plugged in -- as you say, it is mounted in fiberglass.
However, when the clock connector is plugged in, the clock case is now at ground potential because the negative (ground) side of the connector is connected internally in the clock to the clock case. This is how ground is made for the clock and the clock lights.
Now, if the wires in the connector were reversed, the clock case would be at +12 volts and the case would be isolated from the dash. I don't know if this is possible, but what if one of the heater control cables was somehow touching the clock case that is now at +12 volts -- could the heater cable somehow conduct through something in the air distribution case to the heater core? I would think it would be very unlikely.

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