Question about Steeroids
Racer
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From: California Missouri
Just Purchased the Kit for 67 Coupe
I will be doing the install the first part of November... I will let you know what I find when trying to install,, I already have pump, pulley, and the brackets are on order,, I have researched and read some magazine articles on the installation
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From: Kanata Ontario
Hi guys, I installed the Steeroids kit last winter, I think there are a few threads on this if you search the archives.
The steeroids R&P is a power steering unit, and the stock pump can be used to drive it. My car was a manual box, I've never driven a PS C-2 , so I can't contrast. However, I did drive the Steeroids unit for a while without a pump, the effort was high but not completely unreasonable. I'd run it as a power unit though, it has great feel and is wonderful to use.
Installation isn't too bad, the instructions are clear and easy to use. I had problems with fitting, in particular if you have a SHP motor, you can't use this unit as it interferes with the oil pan. The Speed Direct folks were quite supportive when I was installing the unit, but in the end, I had to make some slight mods to the brackets to get them to line up properly and to get rid of interference issues.
Overall, I'm happy with it now that it is in the car and everything works.
Bruce
The steeroids R&P is a power steering unit, and the stock pump can be used to drive it. My car was a manual box, I've never driven a PS C-2 , so I can't contrast. However, I did drive the Steeroids unit for a while without a pump, the effort was high but not completely unreasonable. I'd run it as a power unit though, it has great feel and is wonderful to use.
Installation isn't too bad, the instructions are clear and easy to use. I had problems with fitting, in particular if you have a SHP motor, you can't use this unit as it interferes with the oil pan. The Speed Direct folks were quite supportive when I was installing the unit, but in the end, I had to make some slight mods to the brackets to get them to line up properly and to get rid of interference issues.
Overall, I'm happy with it now that it is in the car and everything works.
Bruce
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Originally Posted by 63bruce
Hi guys, I installed the Steeroids kit last winter, I think there are a few threads on this if you search the archives.
The steeroids R&P is a power steering unit, and the stock pump can be used to drive it. My car was a manual box, I've never driven a PS C-2 , so I can't contrast. However, I did drive the Steeroids unit for a while without a pump, the effort was high but not completely unreasonable. I'd run it as a power unit though, it has great feel and is wonderful to use.
Installation isn't too bad, the instructions are clear and easy to use. I had problems with fitting, in particular if you have a SHP motor, you can't use this unit as it interferes with the oil pan. The Speed Direct folks were quite supportive when I was installing the unit, but in the end, I had to make some slight mods to the brackets to get them to line up properly and to get rid of interference issues.
Overall, I'm happy with it now that it is in the car and everything works.
Bruce
The steeroids R&P is a power steering unit, and the stock pump can be used to drive it. My car was a manual box, I've never driven a PS C-2 , so I can't contrast. However, I did drive the Steeroids unit for a while without a pump, the effort was high but not completely unreasonable. I'd run it as a power unit though, it has great feel and is wonderful to use.
Installation isn't too bad, the instructions are clear and easy to use. I had problems with fitting, in particular if you have a SHP motor, you can't use this unit as it interferes with the oil pan. The Speed Direct folks were quite supportive when I was installing the unit, but in the end, I had to make some slight mods to the brackets to get them to line up properly and to get rid of interference issues.
Overall, I'm happy with it now that it is in the car and everything works.
Bruce
How bad is the angle on the first u-joint running down the steering shaft towards the R&P? Know what I mean? I saw a picture at the Speed Direct web site and from that it looks like a petty serious bend in the u-joint goint down towards the R&P.
Also, how much of the unit is visible from a straight on look at the front of the car? I like the idea of Power R&P but I don't want it to stick out and be seen plus I'm worried about that first u-joint binding up.
Thanks,
Frapps
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From: Rosamond Ca
Originally Posted by johnfharding
I will be doing the install the first part of November... I will let you know what I find when trying to install,, I already have pump, pulley, and the brackets are on order,, I have researched and read some magazine articles on the installation
Are you anywhere near So Calif? I'd love to come and watch, split a pizza.
Frapps
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Hi Frapps, sorry - I was away for the long weekend up here. The angle on the U-joint is pretty steep, but not unusual for a steering column. I didn't have too much trouble adjusting it so that the shaft turned smoothly. The unit itself does hang down, about even with the lower control arms. No clearance problems, and I don't think you'll really notice it unless you are down looking under the car. I sent you email on this as well.
Bruce
Bruce
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Originally Posted by 63bruce
......... in particular if you have a SHP motor, you can't use this unit as it interferes with the oil pan. .........Bruce
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Brett Foote
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From: Kanata Ontario
Hi Louie, the problem is that the unit interferes with the SHP oil pan. It actually fits, and works, but you would wear out the rubber boot in no time. There is no way to move the unit forward, as it would hit the lower control arms, so the only way to fix this is to go to an aftermarket oil pan. Note that my experience is with a 63 327/340 SHP motor, I'm not sure about the later 327/350.
Bruce
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Bruce--The 340 and 350 hp motors have different part numbers for the oil pans, but I don't know what the pan differences are. Maybe someone else here does. It's odd that steeroids ads/web site don't say that their unit mignt not fit some applications.
johnfharding-I'll be very interested to hear if the Steeroids go onto your 350 hp car. If you take pictures be sure to let us see them, so we can see clearance to the pan, etc.
Louie
johnfharding-I'll be very interested to hear if the Steeroids go onto your 350 hp car. If you take pictures be sure to let us see them, so we can see clearance to the pan, etc.
Louie
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Louie/John - all you need to know is whether the sump of the oil pan on the 350 extends as far forward as the sump on the 340 SHP from 1963. If it's even an inch less, you will be OK. Here's a poor line diagram (from the side) of what I mean:
SHP pan
\ ___ |
\_______| Rear of motor
Standard pan
\_______ |
\_____|
Good luck, if everything fits it's a pretty simple install
Bruce
SHP pan
\ ___ |
\_______| Rear of motor
Standard pan
\_______ |
\_____|
Good luck, if everything fits it's a pretty simple install
Bruce
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What parts do you buy for that setup? or is it a kit? Steeroids install went fine until we inserted the steering rod into the u-joints. Looks like the original rod is about an inch too long. Gotta figure that out today.
Thanks
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Melting Slicks
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Yes . . . to install a Steeroids system in a C2, you'll need to cut the steering column @ and inch to get the u-joints to line up correctly. Here's a photo of my finished column:
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After digging more and talking to the previous owner, we realized he had the column (not the shaft/rod which we had loosened, not the column) shoved all the way forward. After we backed that up to the rear everything went on smoothly. Having front end aligned now.