Lucas Octane Booster
Burning Brakes
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From: Detroit MI
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10
I've never tried this brand, but I have tried several of the other brands. My goal was to reduce spark knock in a higher compression engine.
I found that they did not work.
I found that they did not work.
Racer
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From: Pasadena Maryland
The only additive that I found that actually works is called Octane Supreme 130 because it contains Lead. I use it in my sons T-Bucket and it will increase octane up to 16 pts if necessary. You can buy it on batterystuff.com. I buy six quarts at a time. I wouldn't use it with a car that has a cat on it. Will problably clog up the thing because of the lead content.
Drifting
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From: Fl
Hey ...
I buy the Lead Supreme buy the case - and I get direct from the manufacturer in Utah. You get 12 quart bottles shipped for $120.00.
BEST STUFF IN THE WORLD - REAL LEAD !
I run an ounce to a gallon, blended with 93 octane, yeilds nearly 96.5
octane. You would not believe the difference it makes when you put TEL into fuel. Lowered my running temps by nearly 8-10 degrees.
The other C**P that you can buy from Pep Boys - is crud. It will mess up plugs, and it gets a goopy film on the intake runners.
http://www.kemcooil.com/products.php?cId=4
Bill
I buy the Lead Supreme buy the case - and I get direct from the manufacturer in Utah. You get 12 quart bottles shipped for $120.00.
BEST STUFF IN THE WORLD - REAL LEAD !
I run an ounce to a gallon, blended with 93 octane, yeilds nearly 96.5
octane. You would not believe the difference it makes when you put TEL into fuel. Lowered my running temps by nearly 8-10 degrees.
The other C**P that you can buy from Pep Boys - is crud. It will mess up plugs, and it gets a goopy film on the intake runners.
http://www.kemcooil.com/products.php?cId=4
Bill
Drifting
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From: Fl
carl a
Just a bit of info ...
the MaxLead2000 is manufactured by Kemco Oil in Utah.. it is Lead Supreme 130 with a different label. I got to talking to the guy in Utah and he gave me the info on the two.
Kinda interesting heh ....
He told me that in order to get anywhere close to 100 octane, you need to blend 2.5 - 3.0 ounces per gallon of 93. He even could not undstand why the MaxLead people have a claim of such a low blend ratio .. he said there is no way to get that kinda octane out of a 1 ounce blend ratio.
Give Kemco a call and talk to them -- they are more than happy to give info out on the product.
Bill
Just a bit of info ...
the MaxLead2000 is manufactured by Kemco Oil in Utah.. it is Lead Supreme 130 with a different label. I got to talking to the guy in Utah and he gave me the info on the two.
Kinda interesting heh ....
He told me that in order to get anywhere close to 100 octane, you need to blend 2.5 - 3.0 ounces per gallon of 93. He even could not undstand why the MaxLead people have a claim of such a low blend ratio .. he said there is no way to get that kinda octane out of a 1 ounce blend ratio.
Give Kemco a call and talk to them -- they are more than happy to give info out on the product.
Bill
Last edited by 72ls5fla; May 19, 2005 at 09:54 PM.
Safety Car
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Originally Posted by 72ls5fla
carl a
Just a bit of info ...
the MaxLead2000 is manufactured by Kemco Oil in Utah.. it is Lead Supreme 130 with a different label. I got to talking to the guy in Utah and he gave me the info on the two.
Kinda interesting heh ....
He told me that in order to get anywhere close to 100 octane, you need to blend 2.5 - 3.0 ounces per gallon of 93. He even could not undstand why the MaxLead people have a claim of such a low blend ratio .. he said there is no way to get that kinda octane out of a 1 ounce blend ratio.
Give Kemco a call and talk to them -- they are more than happy to give info out on the product.
Bill
Just a bit of info ...
the MaxLead2000 is manufactured by Kemco Oil in Utah.. it is Lead Supreme 130 with a different label. I got to talking to the guy in Utah and he gave me the info on the two.
Kinda interesting heh ....
He told me that in order to get anywhere close to 100 octane, you need to blend 2.5 - 3.0 ounces per gallon of 93. He even could not undstand why the MaxLead people have a claim of such a low blend ratio .. he said there is no way to get that kinda octane out of a 1 ounce blend ratio.
Give Kemco a call and talk to them -- they are more than happy to give info out on the product.
Bill
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Safety Car
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Originally Posted by jdmick
I thought they banned lead in gasoline a long time ago. I guess since it's an additive they can do most anything? How does that work?
Pro
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From: The Valley of The Sun AZ
All you guys putting TEL in your fuel need to make sure your valve guides aren't getting all caked up with deposits. In low compression aircraft engines like the continental O-300 series, valve guide reaming is common practice because of the buildup of deposits in the valve guides due to lead. You should run a lead scavenger like TPP/TSP that will send that lead out your tailpipe when it's done being used. MArvel Mystery Oil contains TPP.
Just an FYI, do a google search for stuck valve and leaded fuel.
Just an FYI, do a google search for stuck valve and leaded fuel.
Drifting
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From: Fl
All you guys putting TEL in your fuel need to make sure your valve guides aren't getting all caked up with deposits. In low compression aircraft engines like the continental O-300 series, valve guide reaming is common practice because of the buildup of deposits in the valve guides due to lead. You should run a lead scavenger like TPP/TSP that will send that lead out your tailpipe when it's done being used. MArvel Mystery Oil contains TPP.
The guy from Kemco said that the product they produce adds a scavenger to the fuel when blended. Its not like the old days when they added sulfuric acid into the fuel when it was refined. He also said that the unleaded fuel we buy at the pump has agents in it that when combined with the Kemco additive, aids in releasing the lead deposits.
I can vouch for the scavenging agents -- my pipes are rusting from the inside out, just like the good old days of the 60's and 70's ..
Bill
Team Owner
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From: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
He told me that in order to get anywhere close to 100 octane, you need to blend 2.5 - 3.0 ounces per gallon of 93.
On one gallon it would be raised to 100
The products may still work... as all one need do is just barely go over the octane threshold needed buy that particular engine. If you start out with 93 octane, it may take only a very slight increase to stop pinging.
Le Mans Master
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From: Silver City NM
St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Here's the info/website for the Kenco additive. Looks pretty promising.
http://www.kemcooil.com/product_info.php?pId=61
Dep
http://www.kemcooil.com/product_info.php?pId=61
Dep
Drifting
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From: Fl
Mike Mercury:
The raise from MaxLead and 130 Supreme are "full" points, not just fractional points. TEL is what the fuel companies used to get octane into fuel; it was cheap and it solved lubrication issues too.
the junk octane boosters on the shelf at Pep Boys etc..., are fractional point raises.
Bill
The raise from MaxLead and 130 Supreme are "full" points, not just fractional points. TEL is what the fuel companies used to get octane into fuel; it was cheap and it solved lubrication issues too.
the junk octane boosters on the shelf at Pep Boys etc..., are fractional point raises.
Bill
Drifting
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From: Fl
I personally use the Lead Supreme for the lead content. I'm pretty sure that my 72' 454 was designed for low-lead, no lead use. I think that mid 72' GM started to harden the valve seats, but Im not exactly sure. So I figured, add lead just incase.
The car also runs a heck of a lot better with it. I honestly do not see much of a performance gain running 93 vs. 96 octane fuel in my car; but it will run cooler. I have 8.5:1 compression and 93 is way more than enough for that compression ratio.
Bill
The car also runs a heck of a lot better with it. I honestly do not see much of a performance gain running 93 vs. 96 octane fuel in my car; but it will run cooler. I have 8.5:1 compression and 93 is way more than enough for that compression ratio.
Bill
