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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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We are having a hell of a time identifing this motor in our 1969 Corvette. Interior says it's supposed to be a 350 ci 350 hp motor. The pad numbers are:

TO625HN
18J302353
82396124

Block Casting (rear drivers side) 3914660

The VIN is 194679S726516.

Can anyone help? Is this a real pro hack job? What car is this motor from? The numbers don't match obviously. I tried to use our corvette manual yesterday to set the timing and dwell but didn't know what engine it is! So I had to use my "seat of the pants" to adjust the timing until it ran like a raped ape..

Thanks in advance oh great ones!

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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3914660 1968 327 2 Bolt

http://www.stingray.nu/index2.htm

Looks like a 327 from a 1968 chevy......

The 69 wasn't offered with a 327......

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Block appears to be a 68 327 300HP. Built June 25.
However, may not be out of a Vette. I think the Vette
motors should be an HE or HO....not HN.

The block was also used for a low Horse motor (210HP)

I see by your vin 194679 - you have a 1969 vert.

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It definitely came out of a Chevrolet product other than a Corvette... I guarantee that. The VIN derivative of 18J302353 tells us that. The "J" indicates an assembly plant other than St. Louis which is where all Corvettes were assembled in 1968-1969.

I don't have my references handy at the moment but my guess is that it is a 327/300 engine assembled at Tonawanda (NY) on June 25 and installed in a 1968 (model year) full size Chevrolet (Biscayne/Belair/Impala). Might turn out to be a truck application as well...

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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G.M. #3914660=1968/1969 250HP, 2 B.M. truck application. Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
PS Might have further applications, but this is in my records.
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Originally Posted by D.T.
We are having a hell of a time identifing this motor in our 1969 Corvette. Interior says it's supposed to be a 350 ci 350 hp motor. The pad numbers are:

TO625HN
18J302353
82396124

Block Casting (rear drivers side) 3914660

The VIN is 194679S726516.
That HN suffix was used on 4 engines:

1965 327/375hp manual trans in the Vette
1968 327 with Pwrglide, in the full size & Chevy II
1969 327 with tur 350 in the full size Chevy
1969 350/300hp with tur hydramatic in full size

You did not give the casting date so cannot determin the year.

The block casting number, 3914660, is for a '68 327.

So I would have to say that your engine came from the factory back in '68 in either a full size chevy or a Chevy II and was equiped with the two speed powerglide transmission.

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So I would have to say that your engine came from the factory back in '68 in either a full size chevy or a Chevy II and was equiped with the two speed powerglide transmission.
Tom,

While there were several plants that produced Chevy IIs in the early 1960s, by 1968, all Chevy II (Nova) production took place at Willow Run. The Willow Run plant used "W" as their plant code... Since this engine is stamped with a "J" I think that we've narrowed it down to 1968 full size Chevrolet with a 327/Powerglide.

If I get the chance tonight, I'll look up the "J" code and the first "3" that follows it... This should give us the location of the assembly plant for the vehicle as well as the model line.

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Originally Posted by Tom73
That HN suffix was used on 4 engines:

1965 327/375hp manual trans in the Vette
1968 327 with Pwrglide, in the full size & Chevy II
1969 327 with tur 350 in the full size Chevy
1969 350/300hp with tur hydramatic in full size

You did not give the casting date so cannot determin the year.

The block casting number, 3914660, is for a '68 327.

So I would have to say that your engine came from the factory back in '68 in either a full size chevy or a Chevy II and was equiped with the two speed powerglide transmission.

tom...
We were leaning towards the 1965 motor since we didn't see the HN suffix for any of the Vettes. How many numbers are supposed to be stamped into the pad? Block date was E13 8. I think this is a 1968 date. Probably right. This motor really seems to have some horsepower though. More than 210...

Looking for what the 18J302353 number means. Also the 823961214.
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The Vette engines only had two sets of numbers on the stamp pad. At the engine plant they would stamp the build date on the stamp pad. This would be the TO625HN (T=Tonawanda; 0625=June 25; HN=usage code). Then at the Vette assembly plant (St Louis in this case) they would stamp the VIN deritive on the pad (18J302353 on this pad). For this VIN, 194679S726516, that number should be 1Z9S726516. But I have no idea what the 823961214 is for as the Vette never had a third set of numbers (maybe a tracking number stamped by an engine rebuilder?).

By the way, all Vette small bocks back then came from the Flint plant (code F or V). Tonawanda small blocks were not used in Vettes.

One thing to keep in mind is that all these numbers only tell us what the block was orginaly used for. What it is today, who knows? The insides could be totaly changed. Could be bored and stroked, hp cam, etc. Also what about the heads?

tom...

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