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I have a '77 L48 with 80K miles that I have owned for about 10 years. I bought it from my uncle, who bought it new. Up til now, I have kept it in original condition to the point of taking home a few trophies. I got sick of the anemic performance, and sent it to my brother's shop for a little muscle. One thing has led to another, and my brother wants me to swap the block out for a 4 bolt main so he can build it stout. He says he will keep the original block for me in case I should ever want it. I know there are about 300,000 rubber bumper vettes rolling around, but I am having heartburn with this decision.. Any input would be appreciated.
Nice job... As long as the original block doesn't disappear, I guess everything will be ok. I just hate to do it. The first time I see a C4 in my rear view mirror in cloud of smoke, the regret will be gone, I hope.
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
turned out my original block was toast...it had frozen at one time and was filled with freeze cracks through out it.....funny thing was it ran ok and i drove it for 2 1/2 years like that with out a problem, the reality is your old engine will never go back in.....if you want why not just have your engine builder build your old engine up?
turned out my original block was toast...it had frozen at one time and was filled with freeze cracks through out it.....funny thing was it ran ok and i drove it for 2 1/2 years like that with out a problem, the reality is your old engine will never go back in.....if you want why not just have your engine builder build your old engine up?
The original engine is clean inside. I was starting to get a little start up smoke from valve seals, and that's it. The 2 bolt main will not hold up to the HP I want. This started as a simple rebuild and has morphed into my brother wanting to show off his skills. I have no problem with that, as I am the younger, easily influenced one.
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by outrunm
The original engine is clean inside. I was starting to get a little start up smoke from valve seals, and that's it. The 2 bolt main will not hold up to the HP I want. This started as a simple rebuild and has morphed into my brother wanting to show off his skills. I have no problem with that, as I am the younger, easily influenced one.
i have a 4 bolt main, however that 2 bolt main will take more HP then your stock rear end can handle...that engine is plenty strong....are you going over 500HP?
Next question.... He has a set of double hump heads that he is trying to talk me into versus the Dart Pro 1 or Iron Eagle heads. He says he can make these flow just fine. I am thinking that this is old technology, and he is full of crap, but I like the vintage aspect of it. I could care less if they were cast iron or aluminum.
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by outrunm
Next question.... He has a set of double hump heads that he is trying to talk me into versus the Dart Pro 1 or Iron Eagle heads. He says he can make these flow just fine. I am thinking that this is old technology, and he is full of crap, but I like the vintage aspect of it. I could care less if they were cast iron or aluminum.
i have fuelie heads on mine, are these the large valve or the small valve heads? mine work fine although how can you argue those two heads you mentioned?
i have fuelie heads on mine, are these the large valve or the small valve heads? mine work fine although how can you argue those two heads you mentioned?
These are the fuelie heads.. Double hump or Camel hump as I have heard them described. The difference is free vs $$$ for me. Although I am tempted to go cheap, I realize that this is something I will live with for many years to come.
The way I see it, 15 years from now the difference in value of your car will be higher if the numbers matching block is with the car (installed or not), and the value will be lower if the origional block does not exist. Now. make the car run like it looks.
He has me drooling and shopping for half shaft loops. He wants to send me home with 500HP. I told him initially that I wanted to flirt with 300.
If you are after 500bhp dump the fuellie heads and get new aftermarket heads of at least 200cc. They dont have to be aluminium. Lots of good ones around with modern chambers to give more power and allow a little more compression. Good heads/carb are the best value mods around.
You could build up the stock block, just use billet splayed caps installed in place of the two bolt caps. Not a cheap option. It cost me roughly 600 to do this, but its way stonger the a four bolt and no one would know the differnence.
If I were you, I would get an ARP main stud kit, some Dart IE heads and a 383 stroker kit. That is sure to get the job done and keep the original block in the car (and out of the corner of the garage for the next 15 years). You will not be imbarrased by that combo.