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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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http://www.hotrodders.com/t64273.html

i seen this on the hotrod site...... it has a listing of bolts that seem to fail.....mostly overseas bolts......

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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yup, gotta love the hotrodders forum.

always a source of pertinent and highly useful information. highly knowledgeable forum members, the majority of which either run their own shops, are deeply entrenched in a technical field, or at the very least aren't afraid to lay their hands on a wrench and get a little greasy.

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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I am not aware of any foreign bolts in my car except maybe the ARP put in the engine, rods, caps, heads...back in '97....

other than that, they came out of my olde tyme dusty bin I bin savn' for about 40 years.....thems bolts got 'charactor'....

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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I thought ARP was in California ?
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Printed this one off so I can compare to what I see at Lowes and Ace.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Printed this one off so I can compare to what I see at Lowes and Ace.
Too bad the scans are so bad!
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Good info.
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Too bad I couldn't read any of it
Wish it was in Adobe.

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This any better?



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Beaten to it by Jughead
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Thanks Len!!!!

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Hmmmmm....anyone see a pattern with the names of those manufacturers??? Guess we need to bring back that saying "cheap Japanese junk".

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Wait till the Chinese undercut the Japanese. No love lost between those two.
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Interesting...I would expect Chinese bolts to be crap, but I'm a bit surprised that the Japanese make so many suspect fasteners. They're usually nuts on the quality control.
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Japanese on Quality Controll?? where in hell you ever get that idea?? some advertisement???.....in history their steel has allways been reprocessed and therefore something differant about it, I THINK it's higher carbon or other impuritity content on account of the resmelting.....these daze we are in sort of the same boat as the Messabi iron range in Minn, west of Duluth is played out, so I hear....and that is the reason American steel is hurting so badly...no ore....

Manchuria has iron ore and coal in China, that is why the Japanese in WW2 went into those areas....no other....

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A while back much of the wire used to make valve springs for many of the cam manufacturers came out of Kobe, Japan. We ran into many broken valve springs at that time. We tried to use only the springs that were manufactured with the wire from Rockwell International. This may be all changed now, but this is how it was then.Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
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I buy Caterpillar grade eight bolts and have never had a failure.
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Originally Posted by BerniesVette
I buy Caterpillar grade eight bolts and have never had a failure.
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At one time, the aircraft industry was plagued with bad bolts from foreign sources....thinking of Korea as I recall.....anyway, I would hope that's changed now....they used a method of tracing/sealing/tracking boxes of bolts, and require one in ten be destructive tested...something like that....no sense having airplanes falling outta the sky....

Bet a airframe/engine mechanic knows lots more than I do about this topic, and will chime in soon enough...

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Our theory for the last 30 years is that *** steel is obtained from melted down *** ships sunk in WWII..........
*** quality control is good, the problem is that the steel isn't
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Just bought some grade 8 yesterday..... they had "JH" on the top... not on the list so I guess I'm in the clear.

Course, they're just going in to hold the steering column in place so I'm not too concerned about them failing....
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