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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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It's probably best (but unfortunately the most expensive) small block intake available.. It's the Super Victor CNC 2825. The 2825 is the CNC ported version of the regular Super Victor and is supposed to produce 17 HP more than the regular Super Victor.. I currently run a Victor Jr. and the total HP gain could be 30+ HP with this intake... However, I will not be able to run a air cleaner with this intake due to clearance issues.... The front air bleed will clear the hood probably by less than 1/8 inch...
I probably won't have time to install the intake before the Corvette Challenge this Saturday ..

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Looks like you have a winner there. Is the inside under the rails open...like the Edlebrock Air Gap?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Looks like you have a winner there. Is the inside under the rails open...like the Edlebrock Air Gap?
yes, it is open and there's a huge air gap below.. Much larger gap than the Air Gap and the Victor Jr...
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Will you do any additional work to this before you put it on, or is it ready to bolt in as is.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Oliver,
when you say that the front air bleed will clear by 1/8" are you referring to the "bowl vent"? I currently have a Victor Jr., Mighty Memon and K&N X-treme filter. I have a 3" Cowl induction hood, but with a drop base and 4" element my hood won't close. For now I will run a 3" element but I'm getting ready to build a bigger small block and would like be able to tune with spacers if needed. If you could keep me/us informed of how much room you have with this intake I would appreciate it. Dont really want to spend another 650 bucks on a hood but can't compromise on performance either. Godd luck hope it gets you ALL that 30 HP.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Will you do any additional work to this before you put it on, or is it ready to bolt in as is.

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just a bolt on... Probably a 1.5 - 2 hour job..
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Oliver,
when you say that the front air bleed will clear by 1/8" are you referring to the "bowl vent"? I currently have a Victor Jr., Mighty Memon and K&N X-treme filter. I have a 3" Cowl induction hood, but with a drop base and 4" element my hood won't close. For now I will run a 3" element but I'm getting ready to build a bigger small block and would like be able to tune with spacers if needed. If you could keep me/us informed of how much room you have with this intake I would appreciate it. Dont really want to spend another 650 bucks on a hood but can't compromise on performance either. Godd luck hope it gets you ALL that 30 HP.

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yes, I was talking about the bowl vent.. Didn't know the right name for it

I'm running right now a Victor Jr. with a 1/2 inch spacer. The bowl vent is a little less than 3/4 inch from the top of that vent right now. The Super Victor is just a little bit less than 1/2 inch higher than the Victor Jr. + 1/2 inch spacer. On a Victor Jr., the top of the intake is tilted forward by 3 degrees and the Super Victor is flat. That will reduce the clearance even more. Without the difference in angle, I'd have approx. 1/4 inch hood clearance.. Considering the different angle, I will probably have less than 1/8 inch of clearance.. No type of air filter setup would work.. so I'll run without air filter... I'll probably add some type of screen setup to prevent larger objects to get sucked into the carb...
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Are you sure this is the manifold you NEED??? 3500-8000RPM!!!! Are you going to be able to make full use of that power range????

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Not sure if thats the right name either . I'm kind of in the same boat as you with the clearance. Something I was thinking of is to make a bolt on cover that attaches to the carb similar to how a turbo or super charger attaches. It would have to be wide and flat at the carb then transition to something round to maybe install a K&N cone type filter like used on later models. This could be mounted up front where it could get nothing but cool air. I just don't know the actual amount of room and if it would be too restrictive. I'm going to take a closer look at mine tomorrow, I kind of have something in mind. If it may look like it's feasible I'll e-mail you a pic or sketch, if nothing else it may give you and idea for something better.

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Originally Posted by DJ Dep
Are you sure this is the manifold you NEED??? 3500-8000RPM!!!! Are you going to be able to make full use of that power range????

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The Super Victor CNC makes more power throughout the RPM range compared to the Victor Jr.. The runners are MUCH larger. Right not I'm choking my engine with the Victor Jr.. My cam and heads are huge and the Victor JR just doesn't deliver enough air... It's definetely the bottleneck on my setup...
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OH yeah before someone suggests it. DO NOT CUT THE VENT!!!!!!! I discovered this the hardway once as I was cutting the choke horn off on a holley I had. It was slick looking and worked about the same as if I was squirting gas into the manifold with a windex bottle.
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Originally Posted by ltlevil
Not sure if thats the right name either . I'm kind of in the same boat as you with the clearance. Something I was thinking of is to make a bolt on cover that attaches to the carb similar to how a turbo or super charger attaches. It would have to be wide and flat at the carb then transition to something round to maybe install a K&N cone type filter like used on later models. This could be mounted up front where it could get nothing but cool air. I just don't know the actual amount of room and if it would be too restrictive. I'm going to take a closer look at mine tomorrow, I kind of have something in mind. If it may look like it's feasible I'll e-mail you a pic or sketch, if nothing else it may give you and idea for something better.

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If it won't clear, I'll trim that bowl vent by 1/8 inch or so.. That shouldn't have any major negative effect...as long as I only cut off very little..
I will NOT cut it off

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Originally Posted by ltlevil
OH yeah before someone suggests it. DO NOT CUT THE VENT!!!!!!! I discovered this the hardway once as I was cutting the choke horn off on a holley I had. It was slick looking and worked about the same as if I was squirting gas into the manifold with a windex bottle.
One option is to trim the vent and attach a hose to it and route that hose to a little catch can...
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
The Super Victor CNC makes more power throughout the RPM range compared to the Victor Jr.. The runners are MUCH larger. Right not I'm choking my engine with the Victor Jr.. My cam and heads are huge and the Victor JR just doesn't deliver enough air... It's definetely the bottleneck on my setup...
So if it doesn't make a difference, can I buy it off you for 1/2 price?

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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
If it won't clear, I'll trim that bowl vent by 1/8 inch or so.. That shouldn't have any major negative effect...as long as I only cut off very little..
I will NOT cut it off
I'd be careful, when I cut mine off it would basically let the motor "syphon" fuel from the bowl whether the motor was running or not. It did something to the metering signal. I thought the venturi's did this but I was wrong.
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So if it doesn't make a difference, can I buy it off you for 1/2 price?

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The Super Victor wouldn't be a good choice for a 302..

The Super Victor CNC is mostly for large displacement small blocks..

The 302 makes power through port velocity and not volume. My engine makes power through volume.. Huge heads, huge cam.. and now I'm adding a huge intake... The CR is high, so the entire combo should seriousely benefit from the new intake..
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Originally Posted by ltlevil
I'd be careful, when I cut mine off it would basically let the motor "syphon" fuel from the bowl whether the motor was running or not. It did something to the metering signal. I thought the venturi's did this but I was wrong.
Did you cut it off completely or just trim it?
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Great looking intake Olivier. You sure that doesn't belong on a BB Mopar As litlevil mentioned, you could consider a carb bonnet and then also direct fresh air to your carb.

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Is that a CNC ported manifold? Sure looks like a die grinder job to me, I don't see any chew marks from the 3 axis mill and I only see a cleaned up plenum & dividers and gasket matched ports....where is the CNC in all this?
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Is that a CNC ported manifold? Sure looks like a die grinder job to me, I don't see any chew marks from the 3 axis mill and I only see a cleaned up plenum & dividers and gasket matched ports....where is the CNC in all this?
I agree. It just looks port matched with a hand grinder and the plenum was smoothed out. Nice looking intake.
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