P/S question
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
P/S question
Alright , I'm stumped . I have a very hard to turn problem like there is no power steering .
The P/S pump , hoses , centering control valve and lines are all new . The only thing that I have not replaced is the cylinder underneath the car . Would this be the problem ?
The P/S pump , hoses , centering control valve and lines are all new . The only thing that I have not replaced is the cylinder underneath the car . Would this be the problem ?
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
The Ram is the only P/S part that hasnt been replaced , this is the part I previously stated hadnt been changed .
Would this cause the car to act like it had no P/S ? The wierd part about it all is a year ago when the car was running with the old engine , the P/S worked fine . Is it possible the valve in the rear of the P/S pump is stuck ?
Would this cause the car to act like it had no P/S ? The wierd part about it all is a year ago when the car was running with the old engine , the P/S worked fine . Is it possible the valve in the rear of the P/S pump is stuck ?
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Drifting
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I only saw the directions once for a cadillac. Turn lock to lock to bleed system. I'm thinking its all new and might not growl since there isn't any pumping function, it don't power assist.
Driving isn't the same thing, the directions did say lock to lock.
Driving isn't the same thing, the directions did say lock to lock.
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
Gonna raise the front end and try the lock to lock thing . Hope this cures the problem . If not ..... the new pump could be bad like big_G said .
I appreciate all ya's help ! Just wondering if that ram would cause this as well . I sure hate swappin parts but sometimes thats what it takes . Got a lot of horsepower now and with it acting like manual steering , it sucks ! Hard to control this baby .
Keith
I appreciate all ya's help ! Just wondering if that ram would cause this as well . I sure hate swappin parts but sometimes thats what it takes . Got a lot of horsepower now and with it acting like manual steering , it sucks ! Hard to control this baby .
Keith
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
Well , the lock to lock deal didnt work out to fixing the problem .
This doesnt make since . A little over 1 1/2 years ago , I replaced everything except the ram . The power steering worked fine . The engine went down so I pulled it , the p/s system was never opened in any way .... just layed the pump over to the side . Now wth the new engine , it wont work .... like manual steering !
The plunger with the spring in the back of the P/S Pump must be stuck !
This has to be the problem .
This doesnt make since . A little over 1 1/2 years ago , I replaced everything except the ram . The power steering worked fine . The engine went down so I pulled it , the p/s system was never opened in any way .... just layed the pump over to the side . Now wth the new engine , it wont work .... like manual steering !
The plunger with the spring in the back of the P/S Pump must be stuck !
This has to be the problem .
Last edited by RoadrashOU812; Aug 10, 2005 at 04:11 PM.
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
Alright ... wheres all you people with the brains ?
Here is somethingelse I noticed . If I adjust the toe end a little to the positive side , the steering is easy (normal) either direction . But when I adjust the toe end back to zero degrees , it is hard to steer to the right but easy to the left . Something is really strange !
I am trying to understand the theory behind the C3 vette power steering .
Here is somethingelse I noticed . If I adjust the toe end a little to the positive side , the steering is easy (normal) either direction . But when I adjust the toe end back to zero degrees , it is hard to steer to the right but easy to the left . Something is really strange !
I am trying to understand the theory behind the C3 vette power steering .
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Originally Posted by big_G
It sounds like your new pump is dead 
Not enough pressure. I just replaced mine with a rebuilt, turned out to be a lemon. #3 worked like a charm. Mine would only turn easy with higher rpm's, as soon as the r's came back down to normal it was hard steering again.
Le Mans Master
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by RoadrashOU812
Odd thing !
Steering brakes free (turns easy) when I turn to the left but hard to turn to the right .
Anyone have suggestions ?
Steering brakes free (turns easy) when I turn to the left but hard to turn to the right .
Anyone have suggestions ?
It sounds like the control valve needs adjustment (under the cap at the end)...you should have gotten instructions on this with the control valve.
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In addition to big G adjustment comment you should consider flushing system and adding new fluid....
I assume no noises from pump..so that means there was no air in system,otherwise you would have heard a buzzing sound...so, it could be a valve hanging up...ie,no/little flow to one side...
another thing...you can check for control valve adjustment by getting front wheels up,centering steering wheel,and running engine...if steering wheel turns on it's own right..or left,your control valve is out of adjustment...
I learned this much after going up in smoke at 75 mph when my "out of adjustment" control valve blew a pressure line out of it's fitting...but,I had no "hard steering" symptoms prior...
I assume no noises from pump..so that means there was no air in system,otherwise you would have heard a buzzing sound...so, it could be a valve hanging up...ie,no/little flow to one side...
another thing...you can check for control valve adjustment by getting front wheels up,centering steering wheel,and running engine...if steering wheel turns on it's own right..or left,your control valve is out of adjustment...
I learned this much after going up in smoke at 75 mph when my "out of adjustment" control valve blew a pressure line out of it's fitting...but,I had no "hard steering" symptoms prior...
Last edited by rihwoods; Aug 11, 2005 at 01:43 AM.
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
Thanks guys , its a new centering valve but that doesnt mean its adjusted right . I will adjust on it and see what happens .
No , the wheels dont drift to one side or the other when raised off the ground so the centering valve has to be close.... but then again it came from ecklers so it may not be any good . I have gotten a whole lot of junky parts from them in the last year . They are just not the same as they were years ago .
I will keep trying , its gottta get fixed before its over .
No , the wheels dont drift to one side or the other when raised off the ground so the centering valve has to be close.... but then again it came from ecklers so it may not be any good . I have gotten a whole lot of junky parts from them in the last year . They are just not the same as they were years ago .
I will keep trying , its gottta get fixed before its over .
Last edited by RoadrashOU812; Aug 12, 2005 at 09:30 PM.
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Racer
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From: Around Memphis,tn
Well after P/S Pump # 3 , still have the same problem . The Problem is not in the pump . It has to be either the ram or the centering valve ( which is supposedly a new one from " Ecklers " ) . 