What's Your Opinion
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2005
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From: Folsom Ca
Originally Posted by vette70
Stopped at a gas station the other day after seeing a nice 69 getting gas. Started taking with the owner about our Vettes and saw this look of grief in his eyes as I mention some of the things I had done to mine. Oh!!! he said it's not a numbers matching car sorry.
I thought what hell does he mean SORRY?, but went on talking Vette chat.
I listen to this matching numbers, original motor fight all the time and just don't understand this whole subject.
First let me say I don't have a matching numbers Corvette, but my ride would hold up to any matching numbers Corvette in all areas that count. I have replaced and up graded items that Chevrolet probably would have done had they had the part in 1970 and it runs better and is safer.
Matching numbers freaks are like kids that will pay $100 for a pair of jeans because they have some freaks name on it, but would not buy a pair of Rangler Jeans that might fit better and wear longer and look just as good. It's fine to buy those jeans, but why look down on the guy wearing the Ranglers.
Maybe someone can explain why a Corvette that had a bad transition two weeks after it was purchased and replaced by Chevrolet would be worth less than one with original tranny. It's purely a mind game and those who play than game and look down on others who don't have a numbers matching, should go play with their
own kind and quit trying to justify the silly extra money they spent because it has matching numbers.
Now I think it's fine for those who like to play that game, but sticking your nose in the air like yours is better than others because of a few stinking numbers stamped on the is silly
The Corvette is a beautiful machine for those of us who love them and whether it has matching numbers or not it's still a Corvette. Replacing parts or paint runs because it came from the factoring that way even though a safer part or better paint tech. is available, is very questionable to me at times, but that's fine and I surely don't look down my nose at you for that.
We are lovers of the great Corvette and I think the constant battle is silly. Those who make snide remarks or heckle someone's paint job, wheels or modes to there Corvette on here should remember most put a lot of work and a lot of time into their rides and this is not the place to make fun of someone's work as I have seen in the past.
Sorry to go on about this but I seen some on this forum heckle someone's Vette without any consideration of their feelings and love of what they did to create "their Corvette".
A Corvette is a Corvette matching numbers or not.
I thought what hell does he mean SORRY?, but went on talking Vette chat.
I listen to this matching numbers, original motor fight all the time and just don't understand this whole subject.
First let me say I don't have a matching numbers Corvette, but my ride would hold up to any matching numbers Corvette in all areas that count. I have replaced and up graded items that Chevrolet probably would have done had they had the part in 1970 and it runs better and is safer.
Matching numbers freaks are like kids that will pay $100 for a pair of jeans because they have some freaks name on it, but would not buy a pair of Rangler Jeans that might fit better and wear longer and look just as good. It's fine to buy those jeans, but why look down on the guy wearing the Ranglers.
Maybe someone can explain why a Corvette that had a bad transition two weeks after it was purchased and replaced by Chevrolet would be worth less than one with original tranny. It's purely a mind game and those who play than game and look down on others who don't have a numbers matching, should go play with their
own kind and quit trying to justify the silly extra money they spent because it has matching numbers.
Now I think it's fine for those who like to play that game, but sticking your nose in the air like yours is better than others because of a few stinking numbers stamped on the is silly
The Corvette is a beautiful machine for those of us who love them and whether it has matching numbers or not it's still a Corvette. Replacing parts or paint runs because it came from the factoring that way even though a safer part or better paint tech. is available, is very questionable to me at times, but that's fine and I surely don't look down my nose at you for that.
We are lovers of the great Corvette and I think the constant battle is silly. Those who make snide remarks or heckle someone's paint job, wheels or modes to there Corvette on here should remember most put a lot of work and a lot of time into their rides and this is not the place to make fun of someone's work as I have seen in the past.
Sorry to go on about this but I seen some on this forum heckle someone's Vette without any consideration of their feelings and love of what they did to create "their Corvette".
A Corvette is a Corvette matching numbers or not.
Team Owner
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From: Huntersville NC
Here is the part I don't get:
Not matching numbers, sorry ??
A so-called matching numbers car can be a totally cobbled together mishmash of fake parts as anything.
I appreciate a truly original car as much as the next guy, but I don't offer condolences to people with restored or modified cars.
SORRY, but an a-hole is (usually..
) not defined by the type of car he drives.
Not matching numbers, sorry ??
A so-called matching numbers car can be a totally cobbled together mishmash of fake parts as anything.
I appreciate a truly original car as much as the next guy, but I don't offer condolences to people with restored or modified cars.
SORRY, but an a-hole is (usually..
) not defined by the type of car he drives.
Race Director
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From: Lenoir City Tennessee
Ci 6, 8 & 10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
I watched a couple of guys in my corvette club going over my car last time I drove it on a club event. Both of the guys are NCRS type guys. I could see them walking around my car and pointing to different things and discussing the car. My guess is, they have picked it to death because of what I have done to it. But it is my car and my name is on the title and I have nothing to be sorry about. I enjoy my car my way. If I think my car needs a 5 speed, it is going to have one. If I think the car needs FI, it is going to get it. If I think it needs AC, it will get it. If he wants to keep his numbers all matching and use his car for just shows, that is his right too. I plan on enjoying everytime I get in it. 
Instructor
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: near Ocala Florida
Originally Posted by TonySinclair
Wait, wait...I'm getting a vision...the gentleman you spoke with at the gas station...was he older? Thinning white/silver hair? Larger than necessary (sun)glasses? "Corvette" ball-cap"? "Comfortable" shoes with velcro ties? Medium to large paunch hanging over his "Corvette" belt buckle? Crusty white stuff in the corner's of his mouth? Denture breath?
Matching #'s =
unless the car is a rare collector specimen (and at that point, it shouldn't be on the road anyway). And anyone that looks down/belittles your/my car because of it deserves a kick in the nutz.
I have thick hair, albeit a little bit gray
I don't wear sunglasses or a "ball cap".
No Vette buckle either
My shoes are comfortable, Adidas running shoes
No paunch here
Crusty white stuff in the corner's of his mouth? I dont even know what you are referring to here
And, I have all of my teeth
You said, "Matching #'s =
unless the car is a rare collector specimen (and at that point, it shouldn't be on the road anyway)."I don't think anyone would say my car is a "rare collector specimen" And Corvettes SHOULD be driven, no offense to the "trailer guys"
I take it your car is not matching #s, if it is I apologize.
I will not belittle you for that, but to suggest because mine is, it should not be driven on the road is ludicrous
I like my matching #s car, and I like updated, modded, and customized C3s as well.
In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
Safety Car
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From: North of Atlanta GA
St. Jude Donor '05
The only Vette that I consider worthy of special recognition because of numbers matching is one that is still original bumper to bumper, has been preserved in it's factory condition, not driven, with maybe 100 miles or less on it and every part in it is original. Other than that the snob nose Barret-Jacksonettes can shove it up their butts! Any "well taken care of" Vette is worth as much if not more than any so-called numbers matching Vette. As a matter of fact I'd rather have a solid Vette with a new "better-than-original" engine and suspension in it than one with the original or "rebuilt" engine and/or suspension or other parts. For example, some guys don't like to see a newer radio in a Vette, I'd rather have a CD/MP3 or DVD stereo, what the "H" are you gonna do with a 8-track or cassette???
I'm sure those same snobs will always find something to make themselves feel superior to everyone else.
I'm sure those same snobs will always find something to make themselves feel superior to everyone else.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: 68 427 4.11s Roadster
Matching numbers is a bit of a lousy term. Imagine a 1929 rolls royce at a show and its been all modded out. Not quite the same. Its nice to see an archaic bit of machinery in its original state. You can see how they did stuff and why.
Now last summer brothers neighbor threw a party and had all kinds of cars and bikes. There was a 70 BB vette all original. It was nice to look at but it was nicer knowing my engine compartment looks nice while his only looks original. The simple stamped orange (ugly orange) valve covers is an example. I did my own comparison of what should be changed
I wouldn't mod out a highly valued original car. I would sell it to the boob and use the money on a cheaper version I could use and pocket the excess money temporarily.
For the museum keepers out there... thank you. There should be some around for when they get really old. For when kids see a carb and ask "whats that thing"
Now last summer brothers neighbor threw a party and had all kinds of cars and bikes. There was a 70 BB vette all original. It was nice to look at but it was nicer knowing my engine compartment looks nice while his only looks original. The simple stamped orange (ugly orange) valve covers is an example. I did my own comparison of what should be changed
I wouldn't mod out a highly valued original car. I would sell it to the boob and use the money on a cheaper version I could use and pocket the excess money temporarily.
For the museum keepers out there... thank you. There should be some around for when they get really old. For when kids see a carb and ask "whats that thing"
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Beverly Massachusetts
Originally Posted by TonySinclair
My car is matching numbers. But, I've hacked it up so much, it really doesn't matter.
thats right i said it i love my original steering wheel im just building my car the way they should have built it back in 76
Melting Slicks
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From: Beverly Massachusetts
Originally Posted by vette70
First let me say I don't have a matching numbers Corvette, but my ride would hold up to any matching numbers Corvette in all areas that count. I have replaced and up graded items that Chevrolet probably would have done had they had the part in 1970 and it runs better and is safer.
A Corvette is a Corvette matching numbers or not.
well i can say that i have seen your car in person and it is a thing beauty. i would love to have you car numbers matching or not. BTW my car is numbers matching in the fact that every penny that i spent on it matches the amount that came out of my bank account
Pro
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From: Reinholds PA
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Want grief go to a show with me My buddy has a 454 and passes it off as stock and people go nuts but its a 350 car I could give a crap any more just enjoy your vette
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Instructor
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From: near Ocala Florida
Originally Posted by pcfred
Any "well taken care of" Vette is worth as much if not more than any so-called numbers matching Vette.
Originally Posted by pcfred
As a matter of fact I'd rather have a solid Vette with a new "better-than-original" engine and suspension in it than one with the original or "rebuilt" engine and/or suspension or other parts.
I don't care what kind of Corvette you drive, just enjoy it
I like 'em all
I, however am partial to my '83
Burning Brakes
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From: Ft.Worth Texas
Well, my 78 is a numbers matching, or was untill I replaced every piece on it and gave it a flame paint job. I know how you feel about the butthead comments but I could not care less what they say about my Vette. I'm old, thats what we did to them when I was a kid, and I love it today just as much as I did then.
Pro
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From: Gotham City CA
Originally Posted by Cali,68,L-79
Mines a matching numbers car. But I care not and enjoy all Vettes.
The same is true for me. My 63 is stock except for exhaust and repo knock-offs. All the mods to my 72 are bolt-on or paint, but that seemed to upset one person (it is a rare car). I feel that once you own the car, it's yours to enjoy. We have a common interest in a great car and should have fun with that rather than trying to be superior by putting anyone else down.
Instructor
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From: near Ocala Florida
Originally Posted by CoolShark
I feel that once you own the car, it's yours to enjoy. We have a common interest in a great car and should have fun with that rather than trying to be superior by putting anyone else down.
Well said
Safety Car
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From: North of Atlanta GA
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by mrjbq
Actual selling prices do not support that statement
Then, that's what you should own, and leave the matching #s cars for those of us that want them
I don't care what kind of Corvette you drive, just enjoy it
I like 'em all
I, however am partial to my '83
Then, that's what you should own, and leave the matching #s cars for those of us that want them
I don't care what kind of Corvette you drive, just enjoy it
I like 'em all
I, however am partial to my '83
Well I'm sure that '83 is parts-matching
and a absolute collectors item
Race Director
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
my numbers match perfectly.....high performance 350 from a 69/70...XE 268H ....750 speed demon.....700r4.....whats the number for steeroids.....it all matches perfectly!
Racer
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From: Winnipeg Manitoba
My 76 is not numbers matching. It's kind of liberating.
I don't have the responsibility of preserving a musuem piece - I can do what I want with it.
I don't know what that is yet, but I do know I'd like it to look stock.
I don't have the responsibility of preserving a musuem piece - I can do what I want with it.
I don't know what that is yet, but I do know I'd like it to look stock.