Scammer In The Club!!!!!!!
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Scammer In The Club or Not???
A "member" wrote me about a set of wheels I have for sale here's his PM and his login is MOPKOP.
Sound good on all five, how do I pay you and can you do shipping to South Africa via normal shipping via boat, I live in Hong Kong but is rebuilding the Pace Car in South Africa, I will pay for the Shipping
Kind Regard’s
J Smit
Does anyone know this member is he for real should I deal w/him?
Sound good on all five, how do I pay you and can you do shipping to South Africa via normal shipping via boat, I live in Hong Kong but is rebuilding the Pace Car in South Africa, I will pay for the Shipping
Kind Regard’s
J Smit
Does anyone know this member is he for real should I deal w/him?
Last edited by Jims79; 12-21-2005 at 09:25 AM. Reason: Update
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Melting Slicks
Look up this member's post history, if all they do is hang around "for sale" ads........then be suspicious
But if they post in all the threads aking legitimate questions then it may be ok....as long as they pay up front.
But I wouln't rule out scammers because they have been getting smarter and craftier lately because the traditional emails just don't put food on the table anymore. They may feel that posing as a "member" may make them seem more trustworthy.
Let us know how it turns out
But if they post in all the threads aking legitimate questions then it may be ok....as long as they pay up front.
But I wouln't rule out scammers because they have been getting smarter and craftier lately because the traditional emails just don't put food on the table anymore. They may feel that posing as a "member" may make them seem more trustworthy.
Let us know how it turns out
#8
Racer
Out of curiosity, I reviewed his posts. He might be legit. He’s been a member for about 5 months and has a several posts concerning parts for 78-79’s. That’s consistent with someone that really has a car. A scammer would get on here and be offering to buy or sell ANYTHING in the first week. Scammer accounts typically don’t last 5 months.
I agree the off-shore part is a big red scammer flag.
PM members he's dealt with for a reference.
Get the money up front.
I agree the off-shore part is a big red scammer flag.
PM members he's dealt with for a reference.
Get the money up front.
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Scammers are creative. Sounds legit though.. Don't send anything until everything has cleared. Just because a cheque is certified does not mean its not fake.
Someone suggested Western Union. Good idea. They do all the verification work and you get your money.
FWIW his email is a Hong Kong registered domain.
Jim
Someone suggested Western Union. Good idea. They do all the verification work and you get your money.
FWIW his email is a Hong Kong registered domain.
Jim
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If he's in Hong Kong, I'd think it would be relatively easy for him to send you an international money order in US dollars. For instance, there certainly is a major US bank in your neighborhood. I think they buyer in Hong Kong can go to an international bank there and have that bank send money to you via your local major US bank.
It's been a few years since I've done these international money order things (actually I think there's another name for it). Maybe one of our European or Australian/NZ members have more up to date comments about how to do this.
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If the buyer and seller can trust each other, there's no big deal with international transactions. When I lived in Australia about 20 years ago, I would send personal checks written on an Australian bank in Australian dollars to a Hong Kong camara store. They would promptly send me my merchandise without waiting for the checks to clear.
It's been a few years since I've done these international money order things (actually I think there's another name for it). Maybe one of our European or Australian/NZ members have more up to date comments about how to do this.
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If the buyer and seller can trust each other, there's no big deal with international transactions. When I lived in Australia about 20 years ago, I would send personal checks written on an Australian bank in Australian dollars to a Hong Kong camara store. They would promptly send me my merchandise without waiting for the checks to clear.
#13
Drifting
The SCAM comes in when he sends you a check for $2,000.00 more the cost and wants you to send him the difference out of your own account. Then you find out the check he sent you is NO-GOOD and you are out your $2,000.00. Now I am just throwing numbers around, but that is the latest SCAM.
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The method of payment is the way the scam is operated. Don't accept western union.Any cheque can be forged, even bank cheques. Ask him to set up a paypal account and pay into your Paypal account. That way you don't have to give out your personal banking details. If you have credit card facilities use those even though you lose a few percent. I had to buy stuff from the states regularly and credit card or paypal are the safest for both parties.
I feel he is genuine buyer until he tries to change your preferred payment method.
I feel he is genuine buyer until he tries to change your preferred payment method.
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Originally Posted by RHD '68 L89
The method of payment is the way the scam is operated. Don't accept western union.Any cheque can be forged, even bank cheques. Ask him to set up a paypal account and pay into your Paypal account. That way you don't have to give out your personal banking details. If you have credit card facilities use those even though you lose a few percent. I had to buy stuff from the states regularly and credit card or paypal are the safest for both parties.
I feel he is genuine buyer until he tries to change your preferred payment method.
I feel he is genuine buyer until he tries to change your preferred payment method.
#17
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by 1Z87L8
i would not accept a credit card through paypal, if you were to use paypal tell him it would have to be a US Funds cash transfer only.
Correct, because the credit card company can override paypal and do a chargeback if the credit card owner wants one.
I did this a month ago when I ordered a movie through half.com, the seller sent the wrong movie and I tried for over a week to get a resolution from the them. They ignored my emails.
I filed a paypal claim and Paypal said to wait 30 days before contacting them to allow processing time. Screw that, I mailed a copy of the transaction and pictures of the wrong video to Chase Visa. I got them to do a chargeback and credit my account. I still have the video, but thats because I'm not paying out of my pockets to send it back. If they send me a pre-paid label I would gladly send it to them.
Point being is that credit card companies are looking out for thier customers and if the owner of the card says he didn't get his merchandise they have to do what they want (chargeback). Then your out the money and your wheels.
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Been a member since August 2005. Seems like most of his posts are in the for sale section. Looking to buy stuff.
Been a member since August 2005. Seems like most of his posts are in the for sale section. Looking to buy stuff.
#20
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People from warmer climates tend to be more legit than people from the northern European countries! Like I couldn't even think of using a place like "The Netherlands" as a scam address. I didn't even know that it was inhabited by anybody other than nomadic indiginous peoples. Then we get this scammer with some kind of project and pictures. When we all know that Vettes and snow tire chains aren't a good match and since when did nomadic tribes ever have the internet?
Beware of people claiming to be from "The Netherlands"
Beware of people claiming to be from "The Netherlands"