side pipes / muffler
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
side pipes / muffler
Hi all,
I figured between you and the C2 guys I can get a lesson on side pipes.
What type / brand muffler would you recommend for a side pipe app?
Am I better of with a glass pack type, or something like a supertrapp, or something else?
I'm looking for something relatively quiet, but as free flowing as possible.
The application is for the car in my avatar, with a LS1 in it.
Thanks.
I figured between you and the C2 guys I can get a lesson on side pipes.
What type / brand muffler would you recommend for a side pipe app?
Am I better of with a glass pack type, or something like a supertrapp, or something else?
I'm looking for something relatively quiet, but as free flowing as possible.
The application is for the car in my avatar, with a LS1 in it.
Thanks.
Racer
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You have to decide whether or not you want power or quiet sound. You cannot have both. The best for power is made by spiral turbo specialties and they make a spiral turbo baffle for hooker sidepipes. You can tune how much flow vs. noise you wish to allow but it is not the quietest insert, regardless. As far as power goes, it is amazing, easily worth over 70hp on a hot big block and 40-50hp on an average small block. For the quietest muffler, your best bet would be the reverse flow mufflers that hooker makes, which stifle performance.
Drifting
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How about the chambered side pipes? Seems like I have seen some of those in the Corvette vendor catalogs recently. I love the sound of sidepipes, but my wife is afraid that she would burn her legs on them as she is only 4'11" and her legs aren't long enough to clear a sidepipe when she gets into/out of the car. (Good things come in small packages!). 
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Thanks for the advice so far. I'll check them out. I have nothing against loud, but in my car, the tip of the exhaust is 18" away from my ear, with nothing in between. I have to wear an earplug in my left ear if I plan to take anything but a spin around the block.
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St. Jude Donor '05
What sidepipes are you going to buy ? I don't think the Hookers will fit your LS1 heads ?????
It's probably the easiest to use LS1 headers and have a shop bend and fit a pipe that exits behind the front wheel and then connects to Patriot sidepipes. These are cheap and come with mufflers and heatshields.... just an idea...
It's probably the easiest to use LS1 headers and have a shop bend and fit a pipe that exits behind the front wheel and then connects to Patriot sidepipes. These are cheap and come with mufflers and heatshields.... just an idea...
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I had thought about the various alternatives for sidepipe muffler equipment. I was severely chastised here for considering anything but the spiral turbo baffles, and since I wanted to continue to participate in the forum, I was forced to go with the STS system. 
(They are not nearly as loud as the open sidepipes...and I've even drilled out a 3/8 hole in the caps.)
(They are not nearly as loud as the open sidepipes...and I've even drilled out a 3/8 hole in the caps.)
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Originally Posted by RedBad1979
What sidepipes are you going to buy ? I don't think the Hookers will fit your LS1 heads ?????
It's probably the easiest to use LS1 headers and have a shop bend and fit a pipe that exits behind the front wheel and then connects to Patriot sidepipes. These are cheap and come with mufflers and heatshields.... just an idea...
It's probably the easiest to use LS1 headers and have a shop bend and fit a pipe that exits behind the front wheel and then connects to Patriot sidepipes. These are cheap and come with mufflers and heatshields.... just an idea...
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Originally Posted by Z-man
I had thought about the various alternatives for sidepipe muffler equipment. I was severely chastised here for considering anything but the spiral turbo baffles, and since I wanted to continue to participate in the forum, I was forced to go with the STS system.
(They are not nearly as loud as the open sidepipes...and I've even drilled out a 3/8 hole in the caps.)
(They are not nearly as loud as the open sidepipes...and I've even drilled out a 3/8 hole in the caps.)
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Lotus 7 replica. Called Rotus. Currently it has a Rover 3.5L V8. I thought about upgrading to a Rover 4.6L, but just picked up a LS1 with 6 speed from an 02 camaro instead. Should be fun.
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on my hooker super comp i've fixed a custom built short double open cone, it was done by stan¡inless steel co. nice custom item,only a couple of lbs weight, awsome power, relatively quite at idle, a thunder onder full throtle 
before this 'muffler' i've tried many different alternatives but i dont like the long tube on each side of the car, a short one looks very agressive and also you'll avoid burning your wife's legs
before this 'muffler' i've tried many different alternatives but i dont like the long tube on each side of the car, a short one looks very agressive and also you'll avoid burning your wife's legs
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If you can / are going to fabricate them speedway motors has auger mufflers. they are 11" long and 3 or 3.5" diameter. Cheap to.
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
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If you can / are going to fabricate them speedway motors has auger mufflers. they are 11" long and 3 or 3.5" diameter. Cheap to.
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
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St. Jude Donor '03-'11
Originally Posted by Corvette Engineering
If you can / are going to fabricate them speedway motors has auger mufflers. they are 11" long and 3 or 3.5" diameter. Cheap to.
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
I use 3 of the 3.5's per side on my 427. they sound great. You can tune the sound by adding removing sections and capping / uncapping the center pipe.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm
Thanks for the link
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They breathe very well too. I used to run factory stock mufflers, when I switched to these I picked up about 3" of vacuum :smash Now it's so close to open headers I can't tell the diff.
