C3 General General C3 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is it restored?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:42 PM
  #1  
GATOR454's Avatar
GATOR454
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 677
Likes: 5
From: Cary North Carolina
Default Is it restored?

If someone takes an old vette say a condition 5 out of 10 and makes it a condition 9 or 10 by putting in a new moderm engine and suspension, redoing the interior and painting it, is it considered restored?

Last edited by GATOR454; Jan 6, 2006 at 05:50 PM. Reason: I'm a spelling tard
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:44 PM
  #2  
kona's Avatar
kona
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 1
From: Kerrville Texas
Default

In my opinion no. If it was put back to the way it left the factory new I would say yes. Just an opinion.

Kona
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:49 PM
  #3  
Corz's Avatar
Corz
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,958
Likes: 0
From: Middletown Connecticut
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Default

no, that's modernizing it.

restored is what kona said
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:54 PM
  #4  
Jclgodale3's Avatar
Jclgodale3
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,128
Likes: 21
From: North Alabama
Default

Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:56 PM
  #5  
Jughead's Avatar
Jughead
Senior Member since 1492
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 87,930
Likes: 156
From: Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me...
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

I consider it hot-rodded/customized or personalized, not restored.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:06 PM
  #6  
bileboarder's Avatar
bileboarder
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Default Restored?

That's what I'd call a customized car
Restored connotates a dedication to original condition to me.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:10 PM
  #7  
1971corvette's Avatar
1971corvette
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 109
Default

with all of the above
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:16 PM
  #8  
luerja's Avatar
luerja
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,101
Likes: 3
From: Cruising somewhere in St. Louis, Missouri
Default

If modern new upgraded parts were used I would call that rebuilt... if it was rebuilt with OEM parts then i would call it restored.

Jim
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:18 PM
  #9  
dboncio99's Avatar
dboncio99
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Portland OR
Default

Restored in my mind denotes original. NOS parts but no upgrades.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:18 PM
  #10  
GATOR454's Avatar
GATOR454
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 677
Likes: 5
From: Cary North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Jughead
I consider it hot-rodded/customized or personalized, not restored.
Jughead does hot-rodded/customized or personalized = Not Correctly Restored?

At what point do you cross the line between Restored and Modified? Does it only take one thing to not be considered restored? If you do a total body off to a '70 but put radials on in the end is it no longer restored?

I hear the word Restomod tossed around while watching Barrett-Jackson. I guess that would have to mean parts were restored and parts were modified as apparently it could not be both restored and modified? However the cars they tag with Restomod look totally modified to me.

Last edited by GATOR454; Jan 6, 2006 at 06:22 PM. Reason: still aspelling tard
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:31 PM
  #11  
DZRick's Avatar
DZRick
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,447
Likes: 3
From: Syracuse NY
Default

Restored .........No! That needs a correct numbered, correct appearing motor and suspenion pieces.

Customized, personalized.........not if you haven't changed anything with the body or interior.

What you have described I'd think of as just making it better than GM did.

You know what's really sad is when you take a vette and without changing the look of the vehicle make it better with a new (roller) motor and better suspension.
Your made to believe that it has lost value.

Personally I think that is BS when I'll bet half the "original" Vettes out there are restamped and what you described would run circles around any of them depending on what motor you were to use.

I like original cars, but doubt everyone that I've ever seen. Even if the present owner was the original purchaser. It's way to easy and very profitable to forge a numbers matching Vette for me to ever consider buying one.

I'd much rather build mine the way I want it, leaving the eye appeal the way Chevrolet intended.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:38 PM
  #12  
70 LS1's Avatar
70 LS1
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,812
Likes: 4
From: Gig Harbor Wa
Default

I like to call it Restification.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:02 PM
  #13  
Jughead's Avatar
Jughead
Senior Member since 1492
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 87,930
Likes: 156
From: Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me...
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by GATOR454
Jughead does hot-rodded/customized or personalized = Not Correctly Restored?
YES!



Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:13 PM
  #14  
bileboarder's Avatar
bileboarder
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Default Restored?

Man, DZ I have have heard it stated better
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:14 PM
  #15  
bileboarder's Avatar
bileboarder
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Default

(fat fingered the last one sorry) I have never heard it stated better
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:54 PM
  #16  
694speed350's Avatar
694speed350
Race Director
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 18,640
Likes: 121
From: Farragut,TN
Default

I think on bj they call it a restomod
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 10:21 PM
  #17  
Bangkok Dean's Avatar
Bangkok Dean
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,295
Likes: 30
From: one night in Bangkok you are never lonely
Default

Originally Posted by GATOR454
Jughead does hot-rodded/customized or personalized = Not Correctly Restored?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Is it restored?

Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:52 AM
  #18  
Carl Granquist's Avatar
Carl Granquist
Pro
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 624
Likes: 24
From: Shoreline WA
Default

Hey DZRick, you're way too hard on us owners of originals. There's undoubtedly a lot of mods and alterations out there, but how about us legitimate "original" owners? Labor-of-love when we get appraisals and NCRS evals and we confirm numbers correct components. Your claim needs rebuttal.

Last edited by Carl Granquist; Jan 7, 2006 at 11:37 PM. Reason: spelling
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:47 AM
  #19  
isosceles's Avatar
isosceles
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,128
Likes: 3
From: Deltona (son of Deland and DAYTONA) FL
Default

Originally Posted by Jughead
I consider it hot-rodded/customized or personalized, not restored.


What's my preference? Depends on the car and year. My 79? Mod/rod/improve it.

A 67 427? restore!
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 09:17 AM
  #20  
GATOR454's Avatar
GATOR454
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 677
Likes: 5
From: Cary North Carolina
Default

The reason I asked is my wife tells people that I am restoring an old vette. I wasn't really sure if that was the case.

If you look at the definition of restore:
1. To bring back into existence or use; reestablish: restore law and order.
2. To bring back to an original condition: restore a building.
3. To put back in a former position: restore the emperor to the throne.
4. To make restitution of; give back: restore the stolen funds.

A case could be made that original condition need only mean "like new" and not necessarily requiring an original configuration. I think the statement that one is restoring their Vette to like new condition regardless of whether or not it was modernized would not be an incorrect statement.

I do think the statement needs to be qualified because to say "I'm restoring an old vette" in most peoples minds implies to factory configuration.

While thinking about this I thought "what is it called when you do it to an old house?" It's called renovating.

If you look at the definition of Renovate:
1. To restore to an earlier condition, as by repairing or remodeling.
2. To impart new vigor to; revive.

I think that what I described would be more accurately termed renovating as it has a bit of restoration and remodeling.

Now I will try and get my Wife to tell people I'm renovating an old Vette. My chances, as usual, are slim to none.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:07 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE