I just ordered the Motive 1105. Are you guys pressurizing the system and the cracking each bleeder, then close the bleeder and re-pressurize or are you cracking all of the bleeders and just pumping a bunch of fluid through the system and its pushing all the are out? Hopefully I will get it by next weekend. Car is pulling bad when braking, not sure if a hose is collapsed or just air in the caliper/line. I thought about just buying a complete kit because I have had so many brake problems but... my rotors are good, pads are good, calipers have SS sleeves and do not leak any fluid. Maybe one is stuck? WHo knows, hopefully its just air.

 

ajrothm,

before you start bleeding, check all the calipers / piston seals to make sure you do not have a small leak somewhere. i too had a pulling problem w/ braking. during inspection, i found (1) of the right front caliper inner piston seal had failed and was seeping fluid which got onto the brake pads and rotors.

*everyone has their own way of bleeding but this is how i did mine:
all bleed screws closed, top off the brake master, install and secure the motive sealing cap plate, hand pump the motive can to pressurize the system, bleed one caliper @ a time, start with the rt rear caliper inner bleed screw first then the outer, left rear caliper inner then outer bleed screw, rt front then left front caliper. periodically repressurize the system and top off the master. repeat bleeding process a few more times.

hope you resolve your issue, good luck!

 

[QUOTE=wnjlt1]from my personal experiance i was able to get a good seal with the j-hooks and chain however i did have to play around with the positioning a bit and only got about 15 psi before it started to leak. i also tested your great recommendation c-clamps , block of wood and it worked very well. i would definately trust ffas23 on his tip!

Actually I can't take credit for that tip. John Z gave me the tip close to 2 years or so ago. You see I had already purchased a Motive Bleeder before I ever heard about it on this forum seeing it on Ebay. After the bad experience I had with the hooks and cheap chain that stretched I called the company with my complaint and sent it back. The company at that point had no answers for me but returned my money. About 6 months later I was reading about this Motive bleeder and how great it was on the forum. John Z was one of the posters speaking highly about the Motive Bleeder. At that point I PM'd John Z and told him of my problem 6 months before. He told me to chuck the chain and hooks and to go and get a block of wood and C-Clamps and I wouldn't have a problem. At that point I contacted the Motive Company and told them I wanted to purchase another unit and told them about what I heard on the Corvette Forum. They send me another unit. I added the block of wood and 6" C-Clamps and it made all the difference being that the other components of the Motive System were top notch as I always thought prior. I would hope that Motive might of added this suggestion in there bleeder kits by now unless they are now shipping with a stronger chain. I still think the C-Clamps and wood would be easier anyway and you know the C-Clamps are not going to budge when clamped down.

By the way I see in your picture that you put the block of wood on the bottom of the Master Cylinder. Actually John Z recommended that the block of wood be put on the top of the Master Cylinder right above the plastic bleeder adapter to evenly distribute the down pressure on the adapter. I think you may be taking a chance putting pressure right on the adapter with the C-Clamp.

 

One of my Vettes years ago kept pulling to one side. I checked for leaks in the calipers and it ended up being a collapsed front brake hose. The inner hose collapsed not letting brake fluid back up when releasing the brake pedal.

As far as the Motive Bleeder goes:
The GM repair catalog tells you to start bleeding on the rear drivers side first on a C-2 or C-3. Inner bleeder first. All other cars you are suppose to start bleeding on the rear passenger side.
The Motive Directions you will receive are good and you will know just what to do. Good luck with it.

 

I just used mine again on my bro in laws Camaro. It did not work quite as well as the Vette but still did a great job. The fluid did not come out as fast as it did with the Vette. It does have disc/drum ifthat made any difference. The pedal is rock hard though.

One thing to do is before you put in any fluid pump up the bleeder with air. Check for leaks this way before putting in fluid. This will not make a mess as it will if you do it with fluid.