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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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I'm looking at AIM (LT-1) strips dimensions, it is showing, on each set of stripes... one wide stripe(.16) and one small stripe (.10). Is this correct? The reason I ask, is because I just recieved my LT-1 stripe template which shows both sets (all stripes) the same thickness??? If the templated is incorrect... I want to return this expensive piece of paper .

Would anyone have a pic of original LT-1 stripes? Muddy
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Don, I know you already know my response to your question.....send it back
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I am curious... what is the answer. I did a little googling, and I see both. So did they change it from 70 to 72? or is there a bad stencil kit out there that many are using to the point that it is easy to see a wrong example?

these look like both the same size:




but these look different:





both the same:

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here is a clue:

1970-72 Corvette Hood Paint Stencils.
Paint stencils allow for painting stripes shown above.
1970 Corvette uneven stripes - 1971-72 Corvette even stripes.


so, there ya go... not gospel, but sounds right to me.
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Originally Posted by PRNDL
here is a clue:

1970-72 Corvette Hood Paint Stencils.
Paint stencils allow for painting stripes shown above.
1970 Corvette uneven stripes - 1971-72 Corvette even stripes.


so, there ya go... not gospel, but sounds right to me.

I can't swear to the 71/72 but the 70 was uneven as indicated in the AIM.

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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According to Aim (The second pic) War Bonnet Yellow is correct. So what your saying... My 72 LT-1 stripes should all be the same thickness and I have the correct stencil?

I just noticed Bull... that my AIM (with the different thickness stripes is dated 1972 Series 3993092!!!

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Bob, the reason Im asking is because I delivered my hood to an excellent pen stripper today... he is the one, that picked up on the un even stripes AIM and and the even strips within the stencil. Needless to say, being a pin stripper, he does not want to use the stencil.
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Here is a link to Phoenix Graphixs http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/gm.htm#corvette which is where my stencil came from Via Paragon. Within this link, Phonenix Graphix contradicts themselves by saying 1970 stencil set (un-even stripes) and 1970 to 1972 stencil set ( even stripes) OMG!!!
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I wish I would have taken a pic of the 72 back before I painted it, but I am almost sure it was per the AIM prior to painting, Unfortunatly, I did not take a pic. I do recall the fact that the stripes didn't mesh up exactly....as if a two part stencil was not layed down with precision and the stripe had a very minor stair step as it transitioned around the front corner. I still remember commenting about the lack of quality control Anyway I am very interested in hearing from someone who is sure of the 72's factory original configuration. My 72 is now per the AIM.

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Please dont tell me you are going to blemish that pretty Warbonnet Yellow with pinstripes...
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Originally Posted by Jerry Curl
Please dont tell me you are going to blemish that pretty Warbonnet Yellow with pinstripes...

I can't think of a single reason why someone with an original LT-1 wouldn't want to......"blemish" .......(as you refer to it) the hood



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That color is wonderful. I plan on getting a chrome bumper car and I either want that color or Ontario Orange (or maybe Steel Cities Gray).

Dont hurt that paint. LET IT BREATHE!!!1111ELEVENTYONE!!1!
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Originally Posted by Bullshark
I can't think of a single reason why someone with an original LT-1 wouldn't want to......"blemish" .......(as you refer to it) the hood



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Hey Jerry... believe me, I did have reservations...but, she is an LT-1 and LT-1's wear stripes... My apologies smile!

Bull: I can relate to the stair step... in exactly the locations you describe. I say this, because the stencil is in four pieces, (two long sides, and two front areas.

By the way Jerry, the last pic you seen of my paint has changed!!! Yea, I blocked that clear down to probably 1 of the 3 coats... I then shot 4 more coats, color sanded 1000,1500,2000 then did the three stage buff and polish. OH man!!! does she have debth now!
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And the pictures are... Where?
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I'll post them with her new stripes ...and re-chromed bumpers which I'll pick up tomorrow <~~~~ 6 hour round trip
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Originally Posted by Muddywaters
I'm looking at AIM (LT-1) strips dimensions, it is showing, on each set of stripes... one wide stripe(.16) and one small stripe (.10). Is this correct? The reason I ask, is because I just recieved my LT-1 stripe template which shows both sets (all stripes) the same thickness??? If the templated is incorrect... I want to return this expensive piece of paper.
Don,

The striping/label patterns for the 1970 to 1972 Corvettes fell into three catagories. There were two versions of the stripes themselves: unequal width stripes (approximately 1/4" inner stripes [at the widest point] and 1/8" outer stripes [again, at the widest point]) which were used on most 1970 LT-1 Corvettes and equal width stripes (inner and outer stripes approximately 1/8" [at the widest point]). used on very late 1970 LT-1 Corvettes (roughly the last two to three weeks of production) and all 1971 and 1972 LT-1 Corvettes.

I mentioned that the widths above are taken at the widest point and then narrow down to relatively sharp points where they terminate. The .16" figure is believable for the thickest portion of the stripe... Is it possible that the .10" figure is at a point away from the front of the hood where the stripes begin to narrow? I don't have a 1971 or 1972 AIM handy, but that scenario would seem to make some sense. Let me know what you discover.

Who did you order your stripe stencil kit from? If it wasn't these guys http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/pr_chev_cor.asp, then I would send them back and order directly from Stencils & Stripes Unlimited. The stencils that they provide are pretty darn good and matched up very well with the measurements that we took from the stripes of my own original paint LT-1... My only complaint is that the "LT-1" label is not nearly as nice as the NOS labels that are still floating around. I would (and did for my own car) hunt down a pair of NOS white/black labels (correct for late 1970 and all 1971-1972 LT-1 Corvettes).

Would anyone have a pic of original LT-1 stripes? Muddy
Yes, I have photos of original paint LT-1 stripes in both unequal and equal width variations (much more detail in the former). I would be happy to post them, but it may be a few days until I can get to the photos.

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PRNDL: Thanks heaps for the pic's...gotta love the middle pic Needless to say, I don't understand the 71 & 72 equal stripe...due to my 72 AIM drawing below...

Stan: Again thanks for your input!!! The only thing I have discovered, is more controversy, LOL. As you can see below, AIM (1972 Corvette Series) Revision Recond dated 1/20/72 where the stripes are applied un-even. My build sheet, is dated March 72... Having said that, I made the decission to go ahead with the un-even scheme. Now, since my stencil is equal width... I'm letting Mike (Pin stripper) take over, with his free hand yea... I know...scary!!! is an understatement. I must say though: Mike is a very technical guy...and really liked the AIM drawing with its dimension. He was pouring over it, and I could tell...eager to apply his stamp on it .

Muddy...

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You asked about how they were originally but no one responded with info from the NCRS judging guide.

"Hood stripes for 1970 are in two different sizes at the front of the hood. One inner stripe is 1/4 inch wide with a 1/8 inch space between the inner and outer stripe. The outer stripe is 1/8 inch wide. The last un-equal hood stripe now known is on 1970 serial number 15,889 (July 18 build date). The equal width hood stripe now known is 1970 s/n 16448 (July 24 build date). From about this date through 1972, both inner and outer hood stripes are 1/8 inch wide with a 1/8 inch space between the two stripes." empahsis added.

There isn't any question on this information. All 71s and 72s had the same hood stripe dimensions.

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Originally Posted by GaryS
You asked about how they were originally but no one responded with info from the NCRS judging guide.

"Hood stripes for 1970 are in two different sizes at the front of the hood. One inner stripe is 1/4 inch wide with a 1/8 inch space between the inner and outer stripe. The outer stripe is 1/8 inch wide. The last un-equal hood stripe now known is on 1970 serial number 15,889 (July 18 build date). The equal width hood stripe now known is 1970 s/n 16448 (July 24 build date). From about this date through 1972, both inner and outer hood stripes are 1/8 inch wide with a 1/8 inch space between the two stripes." empahsis added.

There isn't any question on this information. All 71s and 72s had the same hood stripe dimensions.

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Thanks Gary, My 70 LT-1 S/N 01537 most definitly had un-equal stripes and is consistant with your NCRS input. Guess I de-valued the 72 when I went with the AIM dimensions. I personally like the un-equal design better, so it's justified in my mind. On a similar note, The NCRS judging guide states all 1970 4-speed manual shifter ***** were all black chrome.....which I know to be .....My 70 LT-1 has chrome and has been verified thru pevious owners back to the original owner who purchased it from a dealer in Des Monies Iowa.
From what my brother, who worked at the Corvette plant for a while, tells me......it wasn't uncommon to use substitute parts to keep the line moving They probably ran short of black chrome and substituted left over regular chrome????

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