WARNING - Bad engine builder
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Burning Brakes
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From: Same as our leaders Out of my mind
WARNING - Bad engine builder
WARNING
Prestige High Perfomance Engines also known as A and N Engines in Phoenix, Az. is developing a very BAD REPUTATION.
They will not respond to claims for service under their engine warranty program.
Their engines are less than perfect.
WARNING
Stay away from these guys!
Can you say "CONSUMER FRAUD"????
Their warranty is worthless, and their attitude towards their customer's is the reason that I am posting this warning.
Other forum members have reported similar experiences with this engine builder as well.
Prestige High Perfomance Engines also known as A and N Engines in Phoenix, Az. is developing a very BAD REPUTATION.
They will not respond to claims for service under their engine warranty program.
Their engines are less than perfect.
WARNING
Stay away from these guys!
Can you say "CONSUMER FRAUD"????
Their warranty is worthless, and their attitude towards their customer's is the reason that I am posting this warning.
Other forum members have reported similar experiences with this engine builder as well.
Race Director
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From: Forked River NJ
I have used Wither automotive in Collingswood for years. The shop is not much to look at but it is very clean and Paul does excellent work. He has done a bunch of machineing on my motors over the years and I have never been unsatisfied. They are not to far from you. A little difficult to find but well worth it. 
Pro
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From: Flagstaff !!!! baby AZ
I really really highly recoment Chucks Speed center (602) 266-5101. Been around since 1966. Very clean shop. WAY knowledgeable people, with almost no turnover. Give em a call. Lance or Travis. Tell em I sent ya - they will laugh cause they know the whole CnV Story...
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Melting Slicks
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From: Meriden CT
Originally Posted by gtr1999
Sounds just like the guy I used last year in CT, Kehl Tech. Maybe they went to prison together in the machine shop?
its a shame these people feel a need to royally shaft consumers because they feel they "can"
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From: Windsor PA
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Burning Brakes
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From: Same as our leaders Out of my mind
Originally Posted by Gordonm
I have used Wither automotive in Collingswood for years. The shop is not much to look at but it is very clean and Paul does excellent work. He has done a bunch of machineing on my motors over the years and I have never been unsatisfied. They are not to far from you. A little difficult to find but well worth it.
Yes, I know of Withers - A co-worker is having his engine built there. Unfortunately I found out about Withers after I purchased my engine.
I am planning to take the heads off tomorrow and investigate the possible causes there. I am sure that this will void my warranty
but it seems that I am left with no other alternative. The weather is too nice for my car to be stuck like this, and I still have had no reply from the builder.
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Seems like there are more UNQUALIFIED people out there than QUALIFIED!!!
Just found out my newly purchased LS-5 coupe was self-destructing after a 1000 "FRESH RE-BUILD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I decided to give it a rest, and bought a zz454 straight from the general. If anyone wants a set of Edelbrock Aluminum heads and Air-Gap intake, let me know.
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Just found out my newly purchased LS-5 coupe was self-destructing after a 1000 "FRESH RE-BUILD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good thing is, it should be done by Monday!!!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Same as our leaders Out of my mind
I wish I could do that, pull this POS engine and install a fresh one from a reputable builder, but my budget is finally wearing thin. I probably have twice as much money into this car as it is worth. I hope I get to enjoy it sometime soon. If I take this engine apart and find too much wrong with it I'll end up buying a new engine anyway.
I could have made a down payment on a nice new house at this point.
I could have made a down payment on a nice new house at this point.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Same as our leaders Out of my mind
Makes you want to go strangle some of these a$$h@les.
My patience is being tested, a raging, revengeful maniac like the incredible hulk wants to emerge and stomp all over people like this. If I could only go out for a spin with the T-Tops off (it's over 80* today). A ride like that makes ones troubles slip away (as long as the car runs right).
My patience is being tested, a raging, revengeful maniac like the incredible hulk wants to emerge and stomp all over people like this. If I could only go out for a spin with the T-Tops off (it's over 80* today). A ride like that makes ones troubles slip away (as long as the car runs right).
Drifting
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From: Montgomery NY
had my fill of a local engine builder in NY .Cant seem to build a BB that
doesnt grind lobes off the cams in 1 hour of running . after EATING 3
of his botched jobs found a nice quiet place hidden away That builds them RIGHT . 5 star crank in port Jervis NY quality work at a fair price. The other engine builder Blamed me for improper break in of cams GEEEEEEEZE
after a couple of hundred motor installs why do i always screw up a JPM engine
doesnt grind lobes off the cams in 1 hour of running . after EATING 3
of his botched jobs found a nice quiet place hidden away That builds them RIGHT . 5 star crank in port Jervis NY quality work at a fair price. The other engine builder Blamed me for improper break in of cams GEEEEEEEZE
after a couple of hundred motor installs why do i always screw up a JPM engine
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From: Connecticut, USA
Originally Posted by icanfixitforyou
Makes you want to go strangle some of these a$$h@les.
My patience is being tested, a raging, revengeful maniac like the incredible hulk wants to emerge and stomp all over people like this. If I could only go out for a spin with the T-Tops off (it's over 80* today). A ride like that makes ones troubles slip away (as long as the car runs right).
My patience is being tested, a raging, revengeful maniac like the incredible hulk wants to emerge and stomp all over people like this. If I could only go out for a spin with the T-Tops off (it's over 80* today). A ride like that makes ones troubles slip away (as long as the car runs right).
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Burning Brakes
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From: Same as our leaders Out of my mind
Update - BBB Involved
When I did not hear back from the engine builder for over a week regarding my request for repairs, I filed complaints with the Phoenix Better Business Bureau, The Az. Attorney Generals Office and the New Jersey Attorney Generals Office, as well as ebay and my credit card company.
The Phoenix BBB sent me a response stating that they would contact the engine builder.
NOW the engine builder is trying to be "The right kind of guy" all of a sudden, and doesn't understand why I am making a stink about this. NOW he wants me to start complying with the terms of the warranty.
Too late, I took the POS apart today, before I had a response from the engine builder. As far as I knew, the builder was never going to respond. I was tired of waiting on his sorry azz, so I moved ahead. The heads are going to be sent out and magnafluxed. They looked like crap, the coolant passages were full of what looked like welding slag. I'll try and post some pictures later.
The Phoenix BBB sent me a response stating that they would contact the engine builder.
NOW the engine builder is trying to be "The right kind of guy" all of a sudden, and doesn't understand why I am making a stink about this. NOW he wants me to start complying with the terms of the warranty.
Too late, I took the POS apart today, before I had a response from the engine builder. As far as I knew, the builder was never going to respond. I was tired of waiting on his sorry azz, so I moved ahead. The heads are going to be sent out and magnafluxed. They looked like crap, the coolant passages were full of what looked like welding slag. I'll try and post some pictures later.
