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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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I need to get a welder for various work on the corvette including adding a roll bar, not sure if chromoly or not. Is a 90 amp flux core enough?
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yes a mig will do but a 90 amp flux core will not..... get a 200ish amp full gas setup w/ infinitely variable wire speed, as many heat settings (or infinitely variable) as you can.

I almost always use my mig welder for my fabrication work, only when doing stainless, aluminium or stuff that needs to be done very precise I use the tig (like threaded ends on chrome moly tubing, u joints on the steering shaft...that kind of stuff is better done w/ tig)

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I agree with Twin Turbo. The little migs really won't do everything you might need.
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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thanks!
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I wasted about $300 on a little Craftsman unit. Due to low power and crappy performance I find myself still using my old Lincoln stick welder most of the time anyway.
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I have an old Clarke 110v unit with gas that I really like. If I need something heavier, my dad has a 220v Hobart.
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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I bought a 110v Hobart.nice little jobby, but when I put in my rollbar it just didn't cut it.......I did it anyway, but next time my car comes part the rollbar is going back in with a big stick (welder)
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
I have an old Clarke 110v unit with gas that I really like. If I need something heavier, my dad has a 220v Hobart.
I love my 110v Clarke ... I got the largest one they make ... 130 Amp.
Look at Weldingdepot.com for ideas.
I wouldn't look at anything under 120 Amp for your work.
Definitely have to spring for the gas setup -IMO.
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You can get away with a lot with a 110V welder using flux core wire, but there's no doubt you will do a much better job on heavier stuff with a higher amp welder.
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You can get away with a lot with a 110V welder using flux core wire...
Ewwww...no. Gas or nothing.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Ewwww...no. Gas or nothing.
Have you ever used flux core with gas? Even with a higher amp MIG welder, that's the only way to weld anything thicker than 5/16" and avoid cold lap.
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I can weld 5/16th just fine, if I crank mine all the way to 270 amps I can even blow a hole in 8mm steel plate..no problem. Just get the largest machine you can afford (and that your power supply will handle) I feel 130 amps is the ragged edge of what's too small. I personally wouldn't consider any machine under 200 amps but I know you guys have to stick w/ either 110 or 220V (I have 400V)
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
I can weld 5/16th just fine, if I crank mine all the way to 270 amps I can even blow a hole in 8mm steel plate..no problem.
I won't argue that you can't do it. I've MIG welded 1" plate that's currently holding up a fairly large mill building. It's just not recommended and may or may not be of x-ray quality. Flux core with gas digs a lot harder than normal wire. My point is, that even with a 110 welder, you can do a lot of things with flux core with gas, that would, otherwise, require a higher amp welder.
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Yup, you can do a lot, especially if you chamfer the pieces so you have full access to the root but I figure, why spend money on a small welder when with a little more saving up you can buy a better welder that has a larger operating range.
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Yup, you can do a lot, especially if you chamfer the pieces so you have full access to the root but I figure, why spend money on a small welder when with a little more saving up you can buy a better welder that has a larger operating range.
The problem is, some of us don't have storage for a larger welder, or have a 220 outlet in the garage.
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I know, I wrote that above. No 220? Can't you jsut upgrade to 220? I had to upgrade to 25 amps fused 400V to power my stuff but it was well worth it..can't imagine messing about w/ 220V let alone 110. My welder isn't that large..it isn't small either but nothing that one can't store easily (and it has wheels!)

man..I found something that is actually neat about this country...a decent power supply! WOW!!!
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400 Volts? Ouch. Haven't you guys ever heard of transformers? My wife made the mistake of plugging her 110V hair dryer directly into one of your 220V outlets. It worked extra good for a little while.
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220 outlet.
All supply that I know of in US is 220v 2 phase into the house.
While some of us would not hesitate at installing an outlet, most
would need to employ a professional electrician to get outlet installed.

If used for household tasks and occasional automotive work, then
110v/130amp works without added costs ... plus you aren't tied down
to the area with 220v outlet.

Most of us are hobbyists and only need something like this:
http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/200311005.htm
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It's 3 phase, used to be 380 but they upped the 220 to 240V so w/ the phase shift that makes for about 400V...and it's awesome. i can run my compressor, MIG, TIG and other tools at the same time and not have to worry about a fuse blowing. I'm a hobbyist also and I'm using mostly only the upper 1/2 of the power range on my welder. I don't weld any stuff that you guys aren't welding either.
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
man..I found something that is actually neat about this country...a decent power supply! WOW!!!
that and the ho's behind the glass windows. my wife wouldn't let me try one out.
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