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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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I have a "pickle fork" for removing ball joints but my question is "Will using the pickle fork ruin the ball joint so it can't be reused"
I have always used this tool for ball joints that I intend to replace but this time I need to just remove a ball joint so I can replace a CV boot and want to re-use the same ball joint. Can this be done or not?
The relation to Corvettes is I need to do this on my wife's Audi so I can get back to playing with the Corvette.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Chances are very good that the pickle fork will ruin the balljoint. Most auto places (think shucks/kragen/CSK/NAPA/etc) will have a tool you can buy that grabs the a-arm and presses the balljoint out from the bolt side.

They work great! They are much easier to use than the picklefork and dramatically less likely to damage the balljoint.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Berserker 78,
Thank you for the reply.
Can you approximate the cost since I will likely only use the tool once?
Is it hand powered or air powered? I do not have an air compressor.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Autozone will let you borrow one...just return the tool and get your deposit back. I use a small 3 arm gear puller..it is cheap..I think it was less than 15 bucks.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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most ball joint seperators are hand-powered, but I still like to use an impact gun on them because it's easier. I know pickleforks will wreck the dust boots on balljoints, but do they actually destroy the joint as well? You'd still end up replacing all the boots with a picklefork, but they're still cheaper then the whole joint.
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I have the world's greatest gadget, bought it a few years ago at Harbor Freight (but I can't find it in their online catalog). It's an "H" shaped device with the crossbar as a pivot point. The end of one leg is in a fork shape, the same end of the other leg has a bit of a hook shape. At the opposite end is a bolt. Slide the "fork" in where you would put a pickle fork. Set the "hook" over the joint stud. Tighten bolt. Everything happily pops apart.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Any chance of seeing a picture of that tool you referred to?
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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The one on the left is the type I used to pull my Acura's ball joints awhile back.
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wcsinx,
Where did you find those tools? (Auto store, online, etc?)
Where they expensive?
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Mine looks EXACTLY like the one on the left, except that the whole thing is flat black. I hammered away on one upper ball joint with a pickle fork for about 30 minutes, and it still didn't move. That beastie did both uppers in about 5.
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Most auto parts stores should have them ... and Autozone, etc
will let you borrow them.

I have also used a 2-jaw gear puller to push the tapered stud out.
Be careful of the spring ... if the joint is holding it in.

Take a look around, too. Advance Auto parts will often have the
entire rebuilt axle shaft assembly for $49 ... not too much more than
the price of an OEM boot.

Good Luck
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NH Vette,
I assume they will only le tyou borrow the tool if you purchased the part for the job from them, is that correct.
I ordered the boot from NAPA because I was quoted $400 for an entire axle, so I am trying the boot first. No noise from the joint so it is hopefully still good. Does NAPA loan tools or just AutoZone?
Sorry for all the questions, just always did this type of thing with a pickle fork because I didn't care about destroying the ball joint since I was replacing it, but this time I want to reuse the same one.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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NH Vette,
I assume they will only le tyou borrow the tool if you purchased the part for the job from them, is that correct.
I ordered the boot from NAPA because I was quoted $400 for an entire axle, so I am trying the boot first. No noise from the joint so it is hopefully still good. Does NAPA loan tools or just AutoZone?
Sorry for all the questions, just always did this type of thing with a pickle fork because I didn't care about destroying the ball joint since I was replacing it, but this time I want to reuse the same one.
Kurt

No purchase neccessary at autozone.
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wcsinx,
Where did you find those tools? (Auto store, online, etc?)
Where they expensive?
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That picture is from JC Whitney. They're ~$20. I bought mine at Harbor Frieght years ago IIRC. Autozone probably has them as loaners as well.
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Originally Posted by SmokinBBC
No purchase neccessary at autozone.
just a deposit
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Originally Posted by wcsinx
just a deposit
These guys know better than me. I always invest in a tool purchase,
since it saves money over having the job done for me .. .and it is right
there when I need it again. That said, I've been thinking about buying
some of these ball joint and tie-rod separaters. I just pulled apart
the newly rebuilt front suspension on my vette, and the ball joint
taper came out under the weight of the spring ... sweet. I used some
anti-seize compound when assembled.

Good luck
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Originally Posted by NHvette
I always invest in a tool purchase,
since it saves money over having the job done for me .. .and it is right
there when I need it again.
Yeah, I'm the same way. Mostly because when I calculate the cost of the tools and the parts, I'm still WAY below what it would cost me to get someone else to do the job.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Just use a big hammer and hammer the knuckle where the ball joint goes through. A couple good wacks and it will pop off. Just don't take the nut all the way off so when it pops nothing comes flying at you. You won't ruin the ball joint or the boot.
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Originally Posted by Van Steel
Just use a big hammer and hammer the knuckle where the ball joint goes through. A couple good wacks and it will pop off. Just don't take the nut all the way off so when it pops nothing comes flying at you. You won't ruin the ball joint or the boot.
I've never gotten this to work for me .. .at least on old frozen tapers.
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I've never used a pickle fork and I have done a lot of northern cars.
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