Value of NOM 454 vrs matching in a 454 vette?
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Value of NOM 454 vrs matching in a 454 vette?
Need some opinions........
'72 Corvette coupe, NOM, but yet a 454, in a VIN matching 454 car.
How does this affect the pricing of said car? Considering all else is pretty much original, but not a NCRS car.
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'72 Corvette coupe, NOM, but yet a 454, in a VIN matching 454 car.
How does this affect the pricing of said car? Considering all else is pretty much original, but not a NCRS car.
No smartarse comments are asked for in this thread......
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Need some opinions........
'72 Corvette coupe, NOM, but yet a 454, in a VIN matching 454 car.
How does this affect the pricing of said car? Considering all else is pretty much original, but not a NCRS car.
No smartarse comments are asked for in this thread......
'72 Corvette coupe, NOM, but yet a 454, in a VIN matching 454 car.
How does this affect the pricing of said car? Considering all else is pretty much original, but not a NCRS car.
No smartarse comments are asked for in this thread......
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Originally Posted by big_G
30% to 50% less that #'s matching....IMO
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Could you translate that into dollars? Let's just say the car was being offered at 30k. As a matching......what is the NOM worth? 30% less the the value add for the 454? Or 30% less in total value for the car? In this case , 9K??????
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Originally Posted by big_G
yep
Wow......I find that, a little harsh.
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Even though it's a true Vin # matching 454 vette? Not just a transplant in a 350 car?
Wow......I find that, a little harsh.
Wow......I find that, a little harsh.
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Even though it's a true Vin # matching 454 vette? Not just a transplant in a 350 car?
Wow......I find that, a little harsh.
Wow......I find that, a little harsh.
Depends on the condition, if the car is perfect(paint, interior, suspension, etc) minus the transpalnted engine then the car is worth more than $9K. I would say $15-$18K range for a chrome bumper car that is put together right IMO.
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Originally Posted by Corey_68
Depends on the condition, if the car is perfect(paint, interior, suspension, etc) minus the transpalnted engine then the car is worth more than $9K. I would say $15-$18K range for a chrome bumper car that is put together right IMO.
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Originally Posted by big_G
Reality can be a bitch sometimes ...Seriously, the N.C.R.S. types place a high value on matching numbers, that actually helps bring up the value of NOM 'Vettes too...(a good thing if you own either).
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Actually I specified non Ncrs car, but..... anyway, the add for a 454 is only shown as 4 to 5K in some well know investment literature, but you are saying it will reduce the price by 30 to 50% of value on the car if it's a replacement 454, in an actual 454 car.......not buying that.
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Originally Posted by big_G
I know you said "non-N.C.R.S.", but the market of early C-3's is somewhat driven by collectors and speculators, unlike the later C-3's, save P/C and C/E models. I still believe a matching B/B will fetch considerably more than a NOM of equal condition.
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State the condition of this vette...ie,good... better..excellant...show quality...???
A show ready 72 Coupe is going for around $26,000,where as an average 72 would be $18,000....(you can add $3500 for a 454)...but there will be some reduction for the NOM engine...and 72 is a paradox as last year for chrome bumpers F/R,but another big dump in performance HP ratings..
A show ready 72 Coupe is going for around $26,000,where as an average 72 would be $18,000....(you can add $3500 for a 454)...but there will be some reduction for the NOM engine...and 72 is a paradox as last year for chrome bumpers F/R,but another big dump in performance HP ratings..
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
No doubt. I'm not about to argue that. I'm thinkin' maybe a 5K deduct, but, it's still a BB original VIN# Vette with a NOM 454..
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
No doubt. I'm not about to argue that. I'm thinkin' maybe a 5K deduct, but, it's still a BB original VIN# Vette with a NOM 454..
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"Numbers-matching" means a lot. A 30% reduction for a mutt is reasonable but it depends. If the mutt is an L-48 car I'd say it would sell for 85% of it's numbers-matching brother. But if the mutt is an L-88 car, it would sell for 50% of an L-88 car with the original engine.
Also as far as the comment that 72's were down on HP,..not true. The HP ratings changed in 72 from "gross" used in previpus years, to "net". The engines were the essentially the same from 71 to 72.
Also as far as the comment that 72's were down on HP,..not true. The HP ratings changed in 72 from "gross" used in previpus years, to "net". The engines were the essentially the same from 71 to 72.
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
No doubt. I'm not about to argue that. I'm thinkin' maybe a 5K deduct, but, it's still a BB original VIN# Vette with a NOM 454..
While that may be true the only whay to verify is by documents and tank sticker. WAY to easy to make a clone, which is why documentation is key. Matching numbers (even if it were) is not enough.
Everytime I go to Bloomington I see 26 of the 18 (yes I typed that correctly) '67 L88's ever built and they ALL claim to be original matching #'s.
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Originally Posted by Corey_68
While that may be true the only whay to verify is by documents and tank sticker. WAY to easy to make a clone, which is why documentation is key. Matching numbers (even if it were) is not enough.
Everytime I go to Bloomington I see 26 of the 18 (yes I typed that correctly) '67 L88's ever built and they ALL claim to be original matching #'s.
Everytime I go to Bloomington I see 26 of the 18 (yes I typed that correctly) '67 L88's ever built and they ALL claim to be original matching #'s.
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Originally Posted by big_G
....the N.C.R.S. types place a high value on matching numbers....