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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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I just read this on a web site
Is this true?
If so... what the hell was GM smoking?



"For the first time since 1955 no stick shifts were available in the Corvette. They all came with a new 4 speed automatic with overdrive."

Im surprised they sold any.

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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
I just read this on a web site
Is this true?
If so... what the hell was GM smoking?



"For the first time since 1955 no stick shifts were available in the Corvette. They all came with a new 4 speed automatic with overdrive."

Im surprised they sold any.
YES, it's true. Only an auto. was availible in 82.....I have one, and if I win the Plub. Clearing House Sweepstakes(I'm a finnalist) I'll have a 5 or 6 speed. To me, a vette should be a stick shift.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lebvette
if I win the Plub. Clearing House Sweepstakes(I'm a finnalist) I'll have a 5 or 6 speed. To me, a vette should be a stick shift.
Larry
Let me know if you win

Seriously... I agree
I cant imagine owning a sport car without a standard shift....Thats where all the fun is.
No offense to the Automatic people but I would not own a V8 Muscle car ( I realize the L-48 is not exactly muscle) with an aoutmatic.
Im surprised that GM sold any 82's....
What were the thinking?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Dunno, maybe emission problems, computer compatability issues,,, any ideas,,,,,anyone? Betcha TT would know, he's the 82 expert. I am working on (if I can find the ambition an 82 that WILL be a B/W Super T 10 when finished) Peace,,,Moosie
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IMHO, the 82 was/is not a sports car nor is it a muscle car....it's a cruiser. I had one and liked it a lot.

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Originally Posted by gq82
IMHO, the 82 was/is not a sports car nor is it a muscle car....it's a cruiser. I had one and liked it a lot.
Call it what you will
It's still a Corvette

I cant believe GM diddn't offer a standard.....:
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Originally Posted by gq82
IMHO, the 82 was/is not a sports car nor is it a muscle car....it's a cruiser. I had one and liked it a lot.
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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
I cant believe GM diddn't offer a standard.....:
Dark period for American automobiles. Are there any cars available in '82 that were desireable?
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Begining in 1975,you could not buy a new Corvette in California with a stick shift for example.....that emission criteria together with market demands in late 70's-80's dictated move to more automatic's by GM....public was demanding more "luxury" comfort options,as well....
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Originally Posted by The_Dude
Dark period for American automobiles. Are there any cars available in '82 that were desireable?
Well the 82 vette had FI for the first time since 1965, had for the first time a 4sp auto w/od, had a hatchback that could open (CE), a very refined ride and an increase in hp over the previous year. I think 82 was a turning point in the right direction for corvettes.

All I know is for the time I owned mine I really enjoyed it and when it came time to sell the first guy to look at it bought it for full asking price which was over 20K....and that was 5 yrs ago.
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They only sold 25,000 compared to 41,000 in '81. The people spoke.
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Originally Posted by Mark_Milner
They only sold 25,000 compared to 41,000 in '81. The people spoke.
I think the "people" were waiting for the new 83/84 model which sold over 51,000 with the same drivetrain.

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Starting in about 1975 the automatics outsold the sticks, and at one point very few sticks were sold which is why GM made the decision. the Corvette had grown from a performance car to a country club sports car....
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3 of my 4 vettes were 4 speeds. The 72 is a TH400 that I built with the B&M street Strip options. It shifts much quicker and firmer but I too prefer a 4 speed. I thought about changing it over during the recent restoration but since it was the original tranny and drivetrain I didn't.
Since driving the car again I have come to like the TH400 and I'm glad I didn't change it out. Maybe a taller 1st gear from TCI would have been nice though!
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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
... what the hell was GM smoking?...
They weren't smoking anything. They had to meet emissions and CAFE standards on a national level and seperate emissions requirements for a couple or three states, California included. It's much easier on the corporate level to certify one engine/transmission combination to meet ALL of the standards and that's what they did.

BTW: the same engine and tranny combination for '82 also met the '83 fed/state standards and was used in the '84 C4s.
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Originally Posted by Mark_Milner
They only sold 25,000 compared to 41,000 in '81. The people spoke.
Or from another angle, they only made 25,000 cars in 1982 compared to production of just over 40,000 cars each year in 1980 and 1981.

Here is the rest of the story...

Take a closer look at the numbers; only 5,726 cars in 1980 and 5,757 cars in 1981 were 4-speeds...11,00 cars out of 80,000! If one assumes the 4-speed cars were built by "demand" then yes, the people spoke as less than 15% of production for 1980/81 were ordered with 4-speeds. Supply and demand rules, I don't blame GM for dropping the 4-speed option.

Also look at HP rating. 1980 ranged from 230 for the L-82 (only 5,069 made with no 4-speed avail if you checked the L-82 option) to 180 for the CA only 305 version. The base model was 190 HP. In 1981 the only option was the 190 HP model.

The 1982 bumped the HP to 200 but the real seat of the pants number is the torque figure - a whopping 285 Ft lbs of torque...that's a big number for the time and can be attributed to the "new" automatic transmission the 700R4.

The 1982 vette with its early fuel injection and decent factory gearing is an impressive set up for its day, quick off the line with 285 ft lb of torque. Also consider they will turn 26+ MPG while cruising at 70 MPH turning 2,000 RPM.

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Originally Posted by gq82
Well the 82 vette had FI for the first time since 1965, had for the first time a 4sp auto w/od, had a hatchback that could open (CE), a very refined ride and an increase in hp over the previous year. I think 82 was a turning point in the right direction for corvettes.

All I know is for the time I owned mine I really enjoyed it and when it came time to sell the first guy to look at it bought it for full asking price which was over 20K....and that was 5 yrs ago.
I should have excluded the vette.
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All valid points but excluding any emissions issues (which Im sure they could have overcome as they had so many years in the past) I still dont understand why it was not offered as an option

Many people will not buy a Corvette with an automatic transmission, myself included
If I were looking to buy a brand new Corvette in 1982 it would have never happened as I would not have gone with the auto

Curious as to how many they would have sold if the 4 speed was indeed an option.

As far as the brand new C4 in 1984....... new look, suspension ect:
Im guessing people just plain "wanted one" so they took what was offered.
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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
As far as the brand new C4 in 1984....... new look, suspension ect:
Im guessing people just plain "wanted one" so they took what was offered.
A 4sp was offered in 84 and out of 51,547 sold only 6,443 ordered one.
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Originally Posted by gq82
I think the "people" were waiting for the new 83/84 model which sold over 51,000 with the same drivetrain.
This probably had a big impact and may have been part of Chevy's reasoning behind not certifying the 4 speed with EPA and CARB. By the time the '82 was made, the C4 was leaked in many areas and almost everyone knew a new Corvette was coming out. It may have contributed to the decline in sales from '79s 54,000 to the 25,000 in '82.

After 1956, 1972 was the first year that more automatics were built than manuals, so it wasn't the automatic-only that was the sole reason. I'm sure it had some impact, but not the only.

Also, something happened in Nov. 1981, as there were less than 30 Corvettes built. Only 564 in Oct. 81, and the production was not consistent from month to month after that.
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