Hollander Interchange Information
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Hollander Interchange Information
I would like to get a Hollander interchange manual for mid 60's to late 70's domestic cars and trucks (not just Corvettes). Anyone out there use one or have any advice on what to look for and where to buy (cheap)?
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Thanks. I have seen them on Ebay and Amazon and Half.com etc. etc. However, I am mostly interested in peoples opinions on how useful they are, what version (edition) should I buy to cover mid 60's to late 70's and where to get them cheap.
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Ebay is the best place I have found. Honestly if you want general interchange info you can go to www.car-part.com, put in your info and see what other cars pop up. I have several Hollanders and they are good generally, especially body and suspension, but may not be as complete as will actually work sometimes (too specific). Example: In the 80s I wanted a stock intake for a '77 Pontiac 350 without the "D" secondary port. Hollander listed only a few that would work, but actually any V8 Pontiac except the 262/301 will bolt on. Unless you plan on parting out several cars they may be more of just a fun thing to look at. They have usually 10 years at a time inside. Common parts may or may not go back further. Imports are in my '91 Edition. Hope that helps.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
The www.car-part.com site is very useful however I can't really find the information I am looking for. As an example, I am very certain that a power steering pitman arm from a mid 70's A-body will work with the popular Jeep steering conversion done to C3's (without cutting and welding the Jeep pitman). I think that this is dimensionally the same as the pitman on earlier big GM cars. The easiest way I can ID the right vehicles is with the Hollander Interchange.
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You won't get any real dimensional info from a Hollander-maybe 28" long or 25", but nothing like a drawing. If it is not a direct swap it will not tell you. If the splines are the same but it has anything different it will not tell you unless you can use a later part to replace an earlier. Engines will say they can be used, but you have to change XXX (flywheel, pulleys, exhaust, intake...). Your best bet on a pitman arm is the MOOG or TRW catalog at your better auto parts stores. They have some dimensional info.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Maybe I am misunderstanding how a Hollander is used. I was thinking that if I was looking for a pitman arm for a 75 El Camino that the Hollander would tell me what pitman arms (from other vehicles) would interchange.
So I don't really need dimensional information, I am looking for "where used" information.
So I don't really need dimensional information, I am looking for "where used" information.
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Originally Posted by BBShark
Maybe I am misunderstanding how a Hollander is used. I was thinking that if I was looking for a pitman arm for a 75 El Camino that the Hollander would tell me what pitman arms (from other vehicles) would interchange.
So I don't really need dimensional information, I am looking for "where used" information.
So I don't really need dimensional information, I am looking for "where used" information.
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OK. Here is how it works from the book. Hollander 46th edition. Copyright 1980.
In the "Steering and Suspension, Group 6" section, there are 9 subsections: Spindle, Front wheel suspension parts (A-arms), Front suspension knee, Steering gear, Power steering pump, control valve PS, pressure hose PS, I-beam front axle, and Steering column assy. Note that Pitman arm is not a choice.
If you look at steering gear assy for a 75 Chevelle (includes El Camino and Malibu) you find that a 73-77 with power steering is a #1046. If you go to #1046 you see note "G" Power Steering". Note "G" says less upper jacket, upper shaft, pitman arm, shifting mechanism, and wheel. Back to #1046 you find it could have 19 different casting numbers on the box and it lists them. You find that it fits: Apollo 73-75, Buick 77 6-cyl w/o variable ratio, Buick 78-79 Estate Wagon, Century 73-77, Camaro 75-76, Camaro 77-78 HD suspension.......Ventura II 73-77.
Maybe this helps decide what you can actually learn from the Hollnder manual.
In the "Steering and Suspension, Group 6" section, there are 9 subsections: Spindle, Front wheel suspension parts (A-arms), Front suspension knee, Steering gear, Power steering pump, control valve PS, pressure hose PS, I-beam front axle, and Steering column assy. Note that Pitman arm is not a choice.
If you look at steering gear assy for a 75 Chevelle (includes El Camino and Malibu) you find that a 73-77 with power steering is a #1046. If you go to #1046 you see note "G" Power Steering". Note "G" says less upper jacket, upper shaft, pitman arm, shifting mechanism, and wheel. Back to #1046 you find it could have 19 different casting numbers on the box and it lists them. You find that it fits: Apollo 73-75, Buick 77 6-cyl w/o variable ratio, Buick 78-79 Estate Wagon, Century 73-77, Camaro 75-76, Camaro 77-78 HD suspension.......Ventura II 73-77.
Maybe this helps decide what you can actually learn from the Hollnder manual.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by markdtn
OK. Here is how it works from the book. Hollander 46th edition. Copyright 1980.
In the "Steering and Suspension, Group 6" section, there are 9 subsections: Spindle, Front wheel suspension parts (A-arms), Front suspension knee, Steering gear, Power steering pump, control valve PS, pressure hose PS, I-beam front axle, and Steering column assy. Note that Pitman arm is not a choice.
If you look at steering gear assy for a 75 Chevelle (includes El Camino and Malibu) you find that a 73-77 with power steering is a #1046. If you go to #1046 you see note "G" Power Steering". Note "G" says less upper jacket, upper shaft, pitman arm, shifting mechanism, and wheel. Back to #1046 you find it could have 19 different casting numbers on the box and it lists them. You find that it fits: Apollo 73-75, Buick 77 6-cyl w/o variable ratio, Buick 78-79 Estate Wagon, Century 73-77, Camaro 75-76, Camaro 77-78 HD suspension.......Ventura II 73-77.
Maybe this helps decide what you can actually learn from the Hollnder manual.
In the "Steering and Suspension, Group 6" section, there are 9 subsections: Spindle, Front wheel suspension parts (A-arms), Front suspension knee, Steering gear, Power steering pump, control valve PS, pressure hose PS, I-beam front axle, and Steering column assy. Note that Pitman arm is not a choice.
If you look at steering gear assy for a 75 Chevelle (includes El Camino and Malibu) you find that a 73-77 with power steering is a #1046. If you go to #1046 you see note "G" Power Steering". Note "G" says less upper jacket, upper shaft, pitman arm, shifting mechanism, and wheel. Back to #1046 you find it could have 19 different casting numbers on the box and it lists them. You find that it fits: Apollo 73-75, Buick 77 6-cyl w/o variable ratio, Buick 78-79 Estate Wagon, Century 73-77, Camaro 75-76, Camaro 77-78 HD suspension.......Ventura II 73-77.
Maybe this helps decide what you can actually learn from the Hollnder manual.
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Originally Posted by BBShark
Now I think I see how it works. I was thinking there were ways to look up a part number and find all the equivalent parts. I have GM#7814221 for a mid-70's A-body pitman arm. Is there a way to find "where used' info from the P/N?
