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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Recently I got my 72 vette painted. There appear to be a number of flecks or small particles on the surface. The paint guy says this might be removed by buffing the surface. Does anyone on the forum know what he's talking about. I need a second opinion before accepting the car.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Recently I got my 72 vette painted. There appear to be a number of flecks or small particles on the surface. The paint guy says this might be removed by buffing the surface. Does anyone on the forum know what he's talking about. I need a second opinion before accepting the car.
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Is he telling you to buff the surface yourself?
Isn't buffing and polishing his job as part of the process of painting & finishing a new paintjob on a car???
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No matter what you paid for the paint job I would not accept it untill he buffed those flecks, specks, imperfections out. I hope you havent paid yet. If you did then I think you'd have to live with it. Unless the local
VO-TECH or afriend did it in his garage. Peace,,, Moosie
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Depends on what you paid and what you have in writing

I would not think that wetsanding and buffing is included in a $1500 paint job.....for $6000 I'd accept nothing but perfection...... your '72 was painted with laquer originally, if he painted single stage laquer or enamel you cannot wetsand or buff
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Depends on what you paid and what you have in writing

I would not think that wetsanding and buffing is included in a $1500 paint job.....for $6000 I'd accept nothing but perfection...... your '72 was painted with laquer originally, if he painted single stage laquer or enamel you cannot wetsand or buff

You are wrong about that .... You CAN wet sand and buff Laquer and Enamels how do you think we got those beautiful shines in the Day whaen that was all we used and as a matter of fact I am painting my grandsons car today with single stage and am going to be wet sanding and buffing it out as well
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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send a PM to littlejake and ask him...he can give you a good second opinion.
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Originally Posted by 2lt1vettes
You are wrong about that .... You CAN wet sand and buff Laquer and Enamels how do you think we got those beautiful shines in the Day whaen that was all we used and as a matter of fact I am painting my grandsons car today with single stage and am going to be wet sanding and buffing it out as well
The previous owner had my '79 painted red... it was very likely enamel as he only paid $500 for the job....

I tried to wetsand with 2000 grit and buffed and polished.... looked good for two or three days then it turned dull again.... ended up stripping the car

Who knows what kind of fingernail polish they sprayed on the car
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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I agree with Moosie. I promise I'm not trying to be rude here, but I would highly recommend taking someone with you who is knowledgeable about the painting process and have him inspect it for you. If the shop doesn't want to do it, they will try their best to convince you that it will be no problem to buff it. Trust me that's not the case and you don't want to get involved with that.
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Originally Posted by vtresto
Is he telling you to buff the surface yourself?
Isn't buffing and polishing his job as part of the process of painting & finishing a new paintjob on a car???


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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Is it base coat / clear coat?

That is what I put on my 72. The body shop owner told me to take it home after he painted it and go over it with a magnifying glass to look for imperfections and to mark them with a dry erase marker.

I got the spotlight out and really went over it. My Vette looked like it had chickenpox in areas. He buffed out most - sanded down and repaited a few places - and painted some places he missed under the front end (his painter is old and fat and couldn't get that low).

You painter should take care of his problems.
I paid about $3,500 for doing some body work, sanding down to primer or bare fiberglass, and painting. The owner said "you will never get a perfect paint job be we are going to get very close". There are some minor problems that I see but most don't. For the price I think he did good - but I made him fix the major problems.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2lt1vettes
You are wrong about that .... You CAN wet sand and buff Laquer and Enamels how do you think we got those beautiful shines in the Day whaen that was all we used and as a matter of fact I am painting my grandsons car today with single stage and am going to be wet sanding and buffing it out as well
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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It is not uncommon at all to have small specs of dirt or debris in the clear coat that will sand and buff out, even in a state of the art paint booth. Most dirt in a paint job will come off of the painter himself. If your painter is planning on sanding and buffing the car for you at the same price on the paint job, that is somewhat normal. There is no one out there who can spray a perfect paint job. If you look at all the big name painters, they all will sand and buff every paint job they do. That is how you get the great shine on the cars that you see in car shows, on tv ect. There are thing you can do to spray a better looking finish, but to get that flat mirror like finish, you gotta buff it out. That will take out most imperfections as well.
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