Concept One Steering
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Concept One Steering
Anyone here heard of the Concept One Steering box? A friend of mine said that there is now being offered a great steering box for the C-3s. He says that it is utilizining new technology and that it would be a great mod to our type of car. I know very little about the different types of steering boxes but this one really sounds very good. http://www.conceptonepulleys.com It does sound very expensive but it would in his words take steering out of the old into the new. Any word out there on something from this company? Any help? thanks.
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Looks interesting. I didn't see anything on the site about a box for Corvettes, and it looks like the boxes pictured are a little larger than the stock system. That could be a problem since there isn't much room on the drivers' side. I don't remember how much the Jeep box conversion costs but their system might be an alternative to the Steeroids R&P system.
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The gears that are being advertized on the Concept One websight are different versions of the Saginaw 600 model power steering gear.
The one for the 1955-57 Chevrolet is a modified 600 gear with a welded long barrel gear housing and a special pitman shaft.
The other gear that they are advertising for mid '60s and up muscle cars is also the Saginaw 600 gear this time with a Nascar housing. Note the four mounting pads on the gear housing. The four pads are dictated by Nascar for cars racing their circuit. That gear should bolt right into older GM muscle cars using just three of the pads.
A third version of the Saginaw 600 gear is the 1999 through 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee power gear. This gear has still another design gear housing and components. It somewhat matches the gear layout in a C2/C3 Vette. It has been adapted by Corvette Steering Service to fit. Some individuals such as Norval have successfully integrated it into their Vettes.
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The one for the 1955-57 Chevrolet is a modified 600 gear with a welded long barrel gear housing and a special pitman shaft.
The other gear that they are advertising for mid '60s and up muscle cars is also the Saginaw 600 gear this time with a Nascar housing. Note the four mounting pads on the gear housing. The four pads are dictated by Nascar for cars racing their circuit. That gear should bolt right into older GM muscle cars using just three of the pads.
A third version of the Saginaw 600 gear is the 1999 through 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee power gear. This gear has still another design gear housing and components. It somewhat matches the gear layout in a C2/C3 Vette. It has been adapted by Corvette Steering Service to fit. Some individuals such as Norval have successfully integrated it into their Vettes.
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1) We a 12.7:1 and a 14:1.
2) For just cruising with stock style 15" wheels the 14:1 is probably the best ratio. But if a person likes to go thru the curves and they have up date their tires and wheels and suspension they would probably like the 12.7:1.
3) You will need to run a manual steering center link (relay rod). You will eliminate the valve and cylinder.
4) I hope to have it going in the next month or so.
5) The one thing we are trying to figure out is the colapsable steering column. The column shaft will have to be shortened.
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Kevin Redd
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2) For just cruising with stock style 15" wheels the 14:1 is probably the best ratio. But if a person likes to go thru the curves and they have up date their tires and wheels and suspension they would probably like the 12.7:1.
3) You will need to run a manual steering center link (relay rod). You will eliminate the valve and cylinder.
4) I hope to have it going in the next month or so.
5) The one thing we are trying to figure out is the colapsable steering column. The column shaft will have to be shortened.
Thank You,
Kevin Redd
Concept One Pulleys
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www.conceptonepulleys.com
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These two posts (last and this one) are from the makers of the box: We are working on the gear for the 63-82 Corvettes. We can sell them at this time for the 63-66 Vettes. We are still working on the 67-82 kit. The only think we lack is working out the details of the Steering column.
The gear we buy from Delphi is the 600 series. It is the latest technology. We use all Delphi components except for the lower tube assembly that we make and the Pitman Arm. We press our tube assembly into the housing then it is welded. That makes a strong one piece housing. Then we put a new roller bearing and long Pitman shaft in the gear. It works really well and it will make it drive like a late model. It makes a huge difference.
I will have to get you some shipping prices. The gear and pitman arm is $795.00 USD. You will need another steering coupler and hoses, the coupler is part of what we are working on. If you have any other questions let me know. And if you want to give me a postal code I will check on shipping charges.
Thank You,
Kevin Redd
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1-877-785-5397
The gear we buy from Delphi is the 600 series. It is the latest technology. We use all Delphi components except for the lower tube assembly that we make and the Pitman Arm. We press our tube assembly into the housing then it is welded. That makes a strong one piece housing. Then we put a new roller bearing and long Pitman shaft in the gear. It works really well and it will make it drive like a late model. It makes a huge difference.
I will have to get you some shipping prices. The gear and pitman arm is $795.00 USD. You will need another steering coupler and hoses, the coupler is part of what we are working on. If you have any other questions let me know. And if you want to give me a postal code I will check on shipping charges.
Thank You,
Kevin Redd
Concept One Pulleys
1-877-785-5397
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These two posts (last and this one) are from the makers of the box: We are working on the gear for the 63-82 Corvettes. We can sell them at this time for the 63-66 Vettes. We are still working on the 67-82 kit. The only think we lack is working out the details of the Steering column.
The gear we buy from Delphi is the 600 series. It is the latest technology. We use all Delphi components except for the lower tube assembly that we make and the Pitman Arm. We press our tube assembly into the housing then it is welded. That makes a strong one piece housing. Then we put a new roller bearing and long Pitman shaft in the gear. It works really well and it will make it drive like a late model. It makes a huge difference.
I will have to get you some shipping prices. The gear and pitman arm is $795.00 USD. You will need another steering coupler and hoses, the coupler is part of what we are working on. If you have any other questions let me know. And if you want to give me a postal code I will check on shipping charges.
Thank You,
Kevin Redd
Concept One Pulleys
1-877-785-5397
The gear we buy from Delphi is the 600 series. It is the latest technology. We use all Delphi components except for the lower tube assembly that we make and the Pitman Arm. We press our tube assembly into the housing then it is welded. That makes a strong one piece housing. Then we put a new roller bearing and long Pitman shaft in the gear. It works really well and it will make it drive like a late model. It makes a huge difference.
I will have to get you some shipping prices. The gear and pitman arm is $795.00 USD. You will need another steering coupler and hoses, the coupler is part of what we are working on. If you have any other questions let me know. And if you want to give me a postal code I will check on shipping charges.
Thank You,
Kevin Redd
Concept One Pulleys
1-877-785-5397
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I really think that I will be going the rack and pinion method. I live in Australia and they shy away from welding onto the frame (Jeep method). And, I dont like the idea of the bolt holes being put where they werent meant to be. It would have to be a little more fragile and that is one place that I would want plenty of strength. Many people here go the rack and pinion way? thanks.
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It's definitely something your average guy can do. Take a look at the instructions:
http://www.corvettesteering.com/Install.htm
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I agree on this one. A properly built box and steering is all most drivers need. Keep in mind the box has to be built better then a stock rebuild but it works without any fabrication. Vettes steered pretty good through the 60's up to the C4's R&P. I hear the same issues about the brakes a lot,fix the problems and correctly set them up and they work great.